Posted on 04/08/2011 1:17:39 PM PDT by rxsid
"Attendee at Trump Meeting: It Couldnt Have Gone Any Better
A citizen reporter for The Post & Email.. said that the source reported that It couldnt have gone any better.
Reporter: Trump gave them > 30 minutes. WorldNetDaily had been patched in somehow and apparently had been privy to what was going on. Also, there were a lot of media outside ..
Reporter: Rep. Carl Seel, Jeff, & Kelly, who represented a tea party group. ..Trump didnt seem to know about the natural born Citizen issue at all. He gave Jeff homework by saying, I want to know everything about natural born Citizen, and I want to know about these reports from Kenya when members of the Kenyan Parliament had talked about Obama having been born there.
Reporter: .. He has made a pledge that he will to to Arizona in the summer. He fully supports the Arizona eligibility bill..I was told that the primary topics of the meeting were the Arizona eligibility bill and Obamas eligibility.
There was no follow-up meeting scheduled. When they came out of the meeting, Rep. Carl Seel spoke to the press. However, Jeff was assured that some good stuff was shared with the press. As they were leaving, Theresa Cao said something to Jeff, who was trying to figure out who she was. He asked her, Are you Theresa Cao? and she said, Yes, I am.
The Post & Email: Did you say that Arizona Governor Jan Brewer was invited but was unable to go?
Reporter: .. We were informed and believe that Gov. Brewer was unable to attend.
Trump was engaged, asked questions and asked people to get information for him. He clearly showed that he wants to know more..."
(Excerpt) Read more at thepostemail.com ...
Why didn’t the FEC do anything about it? Or the “irregularities” noted in regards to contributions? Or is it a case of they just turn it over to the Justice Department (and we know where that will go)?
What do they do besides draw salaries and benefits?
Music to my ears.
African Info about Obama Kenyan-Born
I have more information for Mr. Trump!!
Here are 6 African Newspaper articles calling Obama “Kenyan-Born”
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Notice the first article was from Sunday, June 27, “2004”
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Historical News Articles and FactCheck Agree: Obama is “Kenyan-born”
Posted on October 18th, 2009 by David-Crockett
Sunday, June 27, “2004”
Kenya Sunday Standard headline-”Kenyan-born” Obama all set for US Senate
http://www.theobamafile.com/_exhibits/Born04.htm
The Nigerian Observer-Americans will today go to the polls to elect their next President with Democratic Party candidate, Senator Barack Obama largely favoured to win. The “Kenyan-born” Senator will
http://www.theobamafile.com/_exhibits/Born01.htm
USAfrica Kenyan-born” OBAMA makes history
wins presidential nomination of U. S. Democratic party; eyes on White House
http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/Born09.gif
AllAfrica.com Little wonder then why “Kenyan-born” Barack Obama, Americas first Black President
http://www.theobamafile.com/_exhibits/Born02.htm
GraphicGhana.com For Ghana, Obamas visit will be a celebration of another milestone in African history as it hosts the first-ever “African-American President” on this presidential visit to the “continent of his birth”. The same article, with the same quote, appeared in ModernGhana.com.
http://www.theobamafile.com/.../...5-ContinentOfBirth.htm
The Ghana Times So far, the odds favour the once underdog in American politics, Obama, the “African-American Senator” from Illinois state. A Congressional Quarterly (CQ) politics monitored on BBC put the “Kenyan born” American ahead of his rivel, John McCain.
http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/Born07.bmp
bookmarking
Information Mr. Trump asked for 4/8/2011:
Kenyan official: Obama born here
In debate over constitution, minister urges African nation to emulate U.S. inclusion
Posted: April 11, 2010
6:22 pm Eastern
By Drew Zahn
© 2011 WorldNetDaily
Kenyan MP James Orengo
A Kenyan lawmaker told the nation’s parliament last month that Barack Obama was born in Africa and is therefore “not even a nativeAmerican.”
During debate over the draft of a new Kenyan constitution,James Orengo, the country’s minister of lands and a member of parliament for the Ugenya constituency, cited America’s election of a Kenyan-born president as an example of what can be accomplished when diverse peoples unite:
“If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation,”Orengo posited, “how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a nativeAmerican, become the president of America?”
Orengo held up the U.S. as a country no longer “living in the past,” since Americans elected a Kenyan-born president without regard to “ethnic consideration and objectives.”
Read more:Kenyan official: Obama born herehttp://www.wnd.com/?pageId=139481#ixzz1IyPr1XT2
http://www.scribd.com/doc/29745224/RDRAFT25
And it looks like this again...
As long as thing has gone on, and as much as you help lead the debate, I wouldn't take any chances. Send it all.
Will do... getting on it tonight. :-)
I posted it yesterday, and about 60 posts later got an O-bot rebuttal. LOL.
The liberals all over youtube like cockroaches trying to counter the birther/proofer agrument. It’s hilarious. Their arguments are old; you can tell they’re a few years behind on this issue.
its not a good idea to send it..if I remember correctly there was a debate on the son of soil statement..it is located later in the pdf document...the statement was challenged..and..
LOL
suitable for their sex...Stanley Ann...lol
This is getting interesting..a showdown between BHOzo the clown and his Chicago mobsters and Donald the Trumpeter and his New York and New Jersey “fellows”...
"If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation," Orengo posited, "how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the president of America?"
Orengo held up the U.S. as a country no longer "living in the past," since Americans elected a Kenyan-born president without regard to "ethnic consideration and objectives."
A new strategy has been unveiled to demand answers to Obama's eligibility questions. See how you can help.
Debate is then recorded in the Kenyan government's official March 25, 2010, hansard a traditional name for printed transcripts of a parliamentary debate as continuing with no other MPs mentioning or attempting to correct Orengo's comments about Obama."
Read more: Kenyan official: Obama born here http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=139481#ixzz1IywIWisM
And the only thing I remember reading in the minutes that any "objection" was the beating of the gavel to come to order in the Kenyan Parliament over it ...maybe
Sharon Rondeau asked for homework help regarding Barak Hussein Obama’s background and eligibility.
Please see my next couple of posts.....
Barry O. tried to pass of something that was inconsistent with what the rest of have and know to be a Birth Certificate.
The so called COLB has many flaws with it:
The best part and even more confusing is why he didn't release any of the three Birth Certificates we know already existed before 2007.
Those were most certainly BCs and not a COLB. There is no reason to create confusion but, for the fact he is hiding something. That something will be discovered, though and this is a long process. I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. Its a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and Im left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my fathers part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my fathers imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents. From Dreams From My Father (Pg. 26 last paragraph) So with all these Birth Certificates lying around, why did he feel it necessary to produce a "Certification of Live Birth" that is inconsistent with a Birth Certificate and wholly lacking all of the information you would find, in you know, a Birth Certificate? He seemed to have some emotional attachment to the Birth Certificate found among his mothers belongings. Why wouldnt he just slap that one up, for all the world to see? It seemed important that he found a document that is called a Birth Certificate and it is highly unlikely he would not know what one looks like.
Hope no one brings up some house fire that vaporized his BC. That was in 1972 and none of the documents listed here would have been affected by that fishy event.
The issue of Natural Born Citizen was brought against John McCain long before Barrack was nominated to the DNC as a Presidential Candidate.
In fact, in order to place McCain on the ballot, the United States Senate went so far as to craft the Senate Resolution 511 proclaiming John McCain a Natural Born Citizen.
There is a cloud over Barrack's birth, to be sure. But the fact that still remains is his birth was of a divided nationality British and American. One is wholly one thing or another but not completely two things at the same time.
Senate Resolution 511
Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.
Whereas the Constitution of the United States requires that, to be eligible for the Office of the President, a person must be a `natural born Citizen of the United States;
Whereas the term `natural born Citizen, as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;
Whereas there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to Americans serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their countrys President;
Whereas such limitations would be inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the `natural born Citizen clause of the Constitution of the United States, as evidenced by the First Congresss own statute defining the term `natural born Citizen;
Whereas the well-being of all citizens of the United States is preserved and enhanced by the men and women who are assigned to serve our country outside of our national borders;
Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President; and
Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.
Now, let us take this simple and explore its hidden meaning.
Whereas the Constitution of the United States requires that, to be eligible for the Office of the President, a person must be a `natural born Citizen of the United States;
They apparently have read the Constitution and have zeroed in on one clause that no law or legislative body has the right to amend.
Whereas the term `natural born Citizen, as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;
The term natural born citizen is not defined, however other rulings by the Supreme Court, Congress, and other writings from such as John Bingham, do define what a natural born citizen is. For sake of space I will only quote the following.
The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.
-Chief Justice Waite in Minor v. Happersett (1875)
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0088_0162_Z
Whereas there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to Americans serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their countrys President;
So the Senate decided to make assumptions and attempt to pass a Gentlemans Agreement on the same. We have already seen from the prior statement that they claimed to have no knowledge of the meaning, and its definition.
Whereas such limitations would be inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the `natural born Citizen clause of the Constitution of the United States, as evidenced by the First Congresss own statute defining the term `natural born Citizen;
So the Senate decided to make assumptions and attempt to pass a Gentlemans Agreement on the same. We have already seen from the prior statement that they have no knowledge of the meaning, and its definition.
Whereas the well-being of all citizens of the United States is preserved and enhanced by the men and women who are assigned to serve our country outside of our national borders;
It sounds nice, but means nothing? Some fluff but again means nothing.
Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President; and
Whom are they referring to, that was born outside the United States and who deemed them eligible?
Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.
So the Senate gave by law, what nature failed to do. Would that not be a naturalized citizenship?
So the Senate deemed that two (2) American or US Citizen parents was an essential to the definition of a natural born citizen that was not defined in the Constitution. So how did they deem that the issue was being born outside the jurisdiction of the United States if they had no definition or requirements of what constituted a natural born citizen? It seems like they know the definition, but are hoping the American public doesnt. There is but one defintion that a natural born citizen has to have citizen parents and being born in country and that is Vattels Law of Nations.
As I refered to SR 511. SR511 is a non-binding, non-lawful understanding, that can not be held as a LAW. Being such, a non-binding resolution is a written motion adopted by a deliberative body that cannot progress into a law. The substance of the resolution can be anything that can normally be proposed as a motion.This type of resolution is often used to express the bodys approval or disapproval of something which they cannot otherwise vote on, due to the matter being handled by another jurisdiction, or being protected by a constitution.
Again, I will note: being protected by a constitution.
Simple resolutions do not require the approval of the other house nor the signature of the President, and they do not have the force of law.
The reason I make this point is that for the chance that John Mccain would have actually won the 2008 Presidential election. The issue of his eligibility not only would have been brought up, but would have stated congressional hearings, the likes of Watergate all over again. The Congress would have in no time instituted articles of impeachment and the motion would have been approved. Then the Senate would have their chance to remove John McCain, however since they already have voted with their Gentlemens Agreement, regardless how the vote went. A non-binding, non-lawful resolution that trumps the United States Constitution could be waved in front of the American public, and John McCain, could go back in the corner, stick his thumb in his pie, and exclaim Oh, what a good boy am I.
Senate Resolution 511, was an attempt to circumvent the United States Constitution, and amend the Natural Born Citizen Clause of which there has NEVER been an amendment or change too.
More then just a non-binding resolution, SR511 defined John McCains eligibility based on being born of US Parents [NOTE the plural] but outside the country. Therefore the only alternative based on THEIR wording is born in country. They did not change the requirement of two (2) US parents.
Where is there a definition as to a Natural Born Citizen based on parents [again plural] and born in country? Vattels Law of Nations.
Why if John McCain was held to these requirements, was Barack Obama not held of being born of US Parents [plural] and in the United States.
Barack Obama has admitted that not only was his father a foreign national, but that he himself was a British Subject at birth. A British Subject is a foreign national and how can a foreign national be a Natural Born Citizen as required by the United States Constitution?
The Logan Act is a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. It was passed in 1799 and last amended in 1994. Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment of up to three years.
The text of the Act is broad and is addressed at any attempt of a US citizen to conduct foreign relations without authority. However, there is no record of any convictions or even prosecutions under the Logan Act.[1][2] However, one possible exception may be the Clinton White House which was fined $300,000.
Then Senator Barack Obama directly interfered with the politics of Kenya in a way that usurped US foreign policy.
This is the hope and change that Obama promises to America: racial/ethnic balkanisation, demographic warfare, and violence, just like Kenya.
Below; Obama works his neocolonial magic on supporters of Odinga and the Orange Party in Kenya in 2006.
1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).
(Hat tip poster : Candor7 )
WOW. Trump is going to bust this thing wide open. GO DONALD!
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