1 posted on
04/04/2011 7:43:18 AM PDT by
SmithL
To: SmithL
This is actually a very big deal. Liberals see this as a way to gain absolute power by disenfranchising everyone who doesn’t live in a handful of major cities.
It’s a direct attack on our constitutional republic and should not be ignored.
2 posted on
04/04/2011 7:46:39 AM PDT by
Yet_Again
To: SmithL
Useful idiots. They come in red AND blue flavors.
3 posted on
04/04/2011 7:48:22 AM PDT by
wbill
To: SmithL
That's just peachy! California, New York, and Texas will become the electors of the President and the other 47 will become "flyover" country. Popular vote is "pure democracy" and the death of the Republic.
Regards,
GtG
4 posted on
04/04/2011 7:49:27 AM PDT by
Gandalf_The_Gray
(I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
To: SmithL
Current tally.
5 posted on
04/04/2011 7:49:57 AM PDT by
cripplecreek
(Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
To: FReepers
7 posted on
04/04/2011 7:54:43 AM PDT by
DJ MacWoW
(America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
To: SmithL
This will save lots of money. If this passes everywhere, then politicians need to campaign in only a dozen cities and perhaps seven counties.
And look at how many city precincts get 99+ turnout, all for democrats.
The rest of us can go about our business without having to vote- the decisions will be made by big-city political organizations!
8 posted on
04/04/2011 7:56:24 AM PDT by
DBrow
To: SmithL
If they want a true representation of voter intent, copy the states of Maine and Nebraska.....the presidential candidate that carries each congressional district receives one electoral vote per district.
Of course, this would never be allowed in California, because the Republicans would capture half of the state’s electoral votes. The heavily populated coastal counties (and congressional districts) are blue; the inland areas are mostly red.
10 posted on
04/04/2011 8:00:33 AM PDT by
july4thfreedomfoundation
(A Jimmy Carter got us a Ronald Reagan......A Barack Obama will get us a Sarah Palin)
To: SmithL
NEVER. THis must never happen. The Constitution/ Founding Fathers hashed over this long and hard, for very good reasons. Their Compromise should stand. In fact, how can the Constitution be voted on, for and against?
15 posted on
04/04/2011 8:24:40 AM PDT by
bboop
(Stealth Tutor)
To: SmithL
The article doesn't include the fact the NPV movement is Unconstitutional. It requires a compact between the states. Article 1 Section 10 of the Constitution states "No state shall, without consent of Congress, enter into any agreement or compact with another state".
Amendment XII specifies Electors are to vote for President: "The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be President, if such a number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed"
The NPV movement will be a fundamental change to the Constitution as it will repeal Amendment XII. Any change in the Constitution can only occur per the Amendment processes in Amendment V of the Constitution. Either one of those processes requires input from the people via the states. The NPV movement is deliberately seeking to omit the people from the equation by not complying with Amendment V and therefore is also Unconstitutional for this reason in addition to Article 1 Section 10.
To: SmithL
That’s just stoopid. It already works that way due to gerry mandering and if this passes they will have a lock on Dem’s forever.
20 posted on
04/04/2011 8:39:33 AM PDT by
Vendome
("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
To: SmithL
The legislators are part of a growing crowd of bipartisan backers of a nationwide campaign to elect presidents by popular vote.The smaller states would still be forced to pay taxes, even though they have no representation?
Time for a bigger Tea Party.
To: SmithL
California - “We vote to make San Francisco the capital of the universe! Well, we voted for it, so it must be real.”
24 posted on
04/04/2011 9:08:43 AM PDT by
blueunicorn6
("A crack shot and a good dancer")
To: SmithL
100% of graveyard voters support this plan
26 posted on
04/04/2011 9:13:56 AM PDT by
RightGeek
(FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
To: SmithL
Both the House and Senate are now elected directly.
It's R E A L L Y dumb to through POTUS into that mix too...less our Republican form of government cease to exist.
29 posted on
04/04/2011 10:55:20 AM PDT by
Mariner
(USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
To: SmithL
Tell the Dims to set a good example-get rid of superdelegates.
30 posted on
04/04/2011 10:57:16 AM PDT by
tanuki
(O-voters: wanted Uberman, got Underdog....)
To: SmithL
a nation lost becuz the electorate is so dumb, they would vote to be conquered.
31 posted on
04/04/2011 10:57:48 AM PDT by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
To: SmithL
Republican Assemblyman Brian Idiot. If he wants attention paid to California in a national election, he should work for proportional allocation of its electoral votes.
32 posted on
04/04/2011 10:59:56 AM PDT by
denydenydeny
(Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak-Adams)
To: SmithL
You need a Constitutional Amendment to do this!
A bunch of big blue states are trying to set it up so as radical left wing candidates running for the White House will never lose.
33 posted on
04/04/2011 11:52:46 AM PDT by
Tzimisce
(Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
To: All
"very focused, very well-financed" effort to correct a process that he argues disenfranchises millions of American voters. The parties nomination processes certainly disenfranchise millions. CA will have its presidential primary in June 2012 long after the determination has been made. Iowa and NH entitlement can go to hell.
Democrats only want to do away with the Electoral college because, historically, they've been the only party blocked by it: Hayes over Tilden in 1876 with 150,000 fewer votes, Cleveland had 100,000 more votes but lost reelection to Harrison in 1888. Harrison did lose in the 1892 rematch however. And then W came in with 540,000 fewer votes than Gore.
Democrat power is increasingly concentrated in urban areas, a problem magnified in CA where L.A. and the Bay Area control the state while millions of other Californians, outside those areas, suffer their failed politicians and failed policies.
This is precisely what the electoral college is designed to guard against.
36 posted on
04/04/2011 4:02:15 PM PDT by
newzjunkey
(Obama will be president until Fri, Jan 20, 2017.)
To: SmithL
There is no reason that California can’t opt to split it’s electoral votes in direct proportion to the popular votes. Other states do that. Nebraska and Maine do that.
There is no reason for California to screw up the rest of teh states. Just opt to split the state’s electoral votes per the popular vote.
39 posted on
04/04/2011 9:30:18 PM PDT by
Freedom_Is_Not_Free
(Don't confuse Obama's evil for incompetence.)
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