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NOW you tell me! I am not going to take any. Not even a little bit. Never want anything to interfere with me having control over myself. This actually scared me.
Yes, I knew about Mama Dearest. Just didn’t know when it would be.
Mama, if you’re reading, prayers for your quick recovery and looking forward to having you back at full strength.
I will say that drug is habit forming....I had to take it after surgery...a little bit just simply eases the pain and you’re relaxed...unstressed says it well. Trouble is if your stressed anyway you’ll like not being stressed...thus it can be addictive...so maybe better you take some Mortin Double strength and go to bed!
I don’t think anyone can honestly determine who is who in Libya...and all the more reason to not have our troops on the ground. They don’t wear military garb so how are you going to tell?...furthermore we shouldn’t have our hands in this fight anyway...period. Let them hash things out and take the death tolls all other nations have had to do in their revolutions....unfortunately the protestors bit off way more than they can chew and are reaping the results of dileberately going up against Gaddafi knowing full well he’d rise to the occassion.
Also unfortunately...they are “victim mentality’...and why they’re crying out for help..and never satisfied no matter what you do....I think they’ll get war weary and stop fighting with the idea the International Community will rescue them from their fate....
Thank you very much. So glad it’s over. Got the Foley catheter removed this AM. Have to watch out for hemorraging and blood clots an dnot lift anythign over ten pounds. I’m going to be pulling out my hair trying to be “good” because I sure don’t want to go through this again. Prayers are very much appreciated. I’ll be on and off here for the next 6-8 weeks. I’m glad there is a new TM and am looking forward to it.
Updates Libya:....apparently Gaddafi’s under seige...need more details but this is what’s out there.
Report that AbdalRahman AlSayd brigade is ‘surrounding Gaddafi’s Compound’...........UNCONFIRMED.... reports of Sayd brigade turning on Gaddafi and shelling Bab Alaziziya.headquarters...Sleem prisoners escape after stealing guards weapons ..........gun battles w Gaddafi forces @ Bab Aziziya Headquarters......@NicRobertsonCNN
Rebels send trained forces to the front, telling youth to stay back.
The wife of Libyan foreign minister who defected has been seized by Gadhafi’s forces - Daily Telegraph
Misratah - Gaddafi forces intensified their siege of Misratah, now blocking the sewage systems in order to force people out of their homes.
BREAKING: Reports that Colonel Abdelrahman AlSaid defected .
The only way Gadhafi loses is if his army turns on him, could be happening.
A military coup is probably the best possible outcome in Libya.
Yep...it does seem to be fracturing all around him. Some have said even the possibility his sons may defect...I agree possible though not so sure about his lawyer Daughter, who has always been his favorite. But his sons remind me of Saddams sons...either way the family may or not remain together til the end.
Libya update...
Rebels are also putting experienced fighters the front, and asking inexperienced to guard checkpnts, convoys, etc
Major overhaul in rebel organiz., they are now in groups w/ commanders controlling groupsps + new leader of Free Libya Army.
BREAKING: Coalition air strikes hit Gaddafi brigades close to residential area in Misrata. ‘Not one civilian injury’.
The current time in Tripoli is 5:30 AM on Saturday, 2 April 2011
It is the symbol for the highest representation in different hierarchies and/or places within islam.
It is the actual North Pole.(Prairie Muslims build mosque for Arctic.)
It is the mahdi.
It is mohammad.
It is mecca.
It is Yusuf al-Qaradawi,
who speaks for millions of muslims and who is the"spiritual leader" of the"uprisings" in the arab countries. (Note the north star on the cover of the q-ran.)
And from this speech, it is clear that obama feels he is also a muslim leader.
Setting the target:
obama: "I want to begin by paying tribute to our men and women in uniform who, once again, have acted with courage, professionalism and patriotism. They have moved with incredible speed and strength. Because of them and our dedicated diplomats, a coalition has been forged and countless lives have been saved. *Meanwhile, as we speak, our troops are supporting our ally Japan, **leav(e)ing Iraq to its people, stopping the Taliban's momentum in ***Afghanistan, ****and going after al Qaeda around the globe. As Commander-in-Chief, I am grateful to our Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines, Coast Guardsmen, and their families, as are all Americans."
"For generations, the United States of America has played a unique role as an anchor of global security (and oppressed you and held you back) and advocate for human freedom. (on the wrong side.) Mindful of the risks and costs of military action, we are naturally reluctant to use force to solve the world's many challenges. But when our interests and values are at stake, we have a responsibility to act. That is what happened in Libya over the course of these last six weeks."
Me: qaddafi has been fighting al qaeda within his own country. He has been providing intel to western countries. And when push came to shove, as he was on the verge of victory against them, lo and behold. HE is he enemy now and we are considering ARMING al qaeda.
This has become a glitch in the soros doctrine for this reason. soros thinks he controls this. qaddafi was his boy. obama has left the reservation yet again to align himself with al qaeda and the ahmahdi muslim brothehood.
Any westerner who thinks they can control these "uprisings" before, during, or AFTER is spitting into the wind.
obama:
"Libya sits directly between Tunisia and Egypt - two nations that inspired the world when their people rose up to take control of their own destiny. For more than four decades, the Libyan people have been ruled by a tyrant - Moammar Gaddafi. He has denied his people freedom, exploited their wealth, murdered opponents at home and abroad, and terrorized innocent people around the world - including Americans who were killed by Libyan agents."
Me: But this gives the lie to what obama and his minions have been LEADING in the region. Why qaddafi? Because qaddafi will not go quietly as the other "leaders" have done. He will not give al qaeda what they demand as other "leaders" have done. HE will fight them in ways they did not expect and were not prepared for because qadaffi, himself, is a terrorist. Long before bin laden, there was qaddafi. And he is not beholden to the ahmahdi for anything. iran does not direct his actions. he is singularly insane. And he stands in the way of the caliphate.
For years, we have been trying to enlighten people that the separation of shia, sunni, and sufi, was miniscule as it pertained to the establishment of an islamic caliphate. They will fight each other to the death for a myriad of reasons, but they will fight TOGETHER to establish islamic dominance in and OF the world.
obama:
Last month, Gaddafi's grip of fear appeared to give way to the promise of freedom. In cities and towns across the country, Libyans took to the streets to claim their basic human rights. As one Libyan said, "For the first time we finally have hope that our nightmare of 40 years will soon be over."
Faced with this opposition, Gaddafi began attacking his people. As President, my immediate concern was the safety of our citizens, so we evacuated our Embassy and all Americans who sought our assistance. We then took a series of swift steps in a matter of days to answer Gaddafi's aggression. We froze more than $33 billion of the Gaddafi regime's assets. Joining with other nations at the United Nations Security Council, we broadened our sanctions, imposed an arms embargo, and enabled Gaddafi and those around him to be held accountable for their crimes. I made it clear that Gaddafi had lost the confidence of his people and the legitimacy to lead, and I said that he needed to step down from power.
Me: I, I, I.qaddafi spoke up and challenged obama. (Who is he to tell qaddafi what to do?) Well, obviously, obama thinks his "leadership" role in the muslim world trumps qaddafi's "leadership" in his own country. You do NOT personally dis the ONE. qaddafi did that. obama is the kind of character that puts his ego above his judgement. HE feels that he is to be obeyed and woe unto them who doubt it.
obama:
In the face of the world's condemnation, Gaddafi chose to escalate his attacks, launching a military campaign against the Libyan people. Innocent people were targeted for killing. Hospitals and ambulances were attacked. Journalists were arrested, sexually assaulted, and killed. Supplies of food and fuel were choked off. The water for hundreds of thousands of people in Misratah was shut off. Cities and towns were shelled, mosques destroyed, and apartment buildings reduced to rubble. Military jets and helicopter gunships were unleashed upon people who had no means to defend themselves against assault from the air.
Confronted by this brutal repression and a looming humanitarian crisis, I ordered warships into the Mediterranean. European allies declared their willingness to commit resources to stop the killing. The Libyan opposition, and the Arab League, appealed to the world to save lives in Libya. At my direction, America led an effort with our allies at the United Nations Security Council to pass an historic Resolution that authorized a No Fly Zone to stop the regime's attacks from the air, and further authorized all necessary measures to protect the Libyan people.
Me: But NOT in syria, yemen, bahrain, tunisia, egypt, saudi arabia, and more, if not MOST importantly, iran.
And the next paragraphs are important to note BECAUSE of his utter silence on iran. Substitute ahmadinejad for qaddafi.
obama:
Ten days ago, having tried to end the violence without using force, the international community offered Gaddafi, (ahmadinejad,) a final chance to stop his campaign of killing, or face the consequences. Rather than stand down, his forces continued their advance, bearing down on the city of Benghazi, home to nearly 700,000 men, women and children who sought their freedom from fear.
At this point, the United States and the world faced a choice. Gaddafi, (ahmadinejad,) declared that he would show "no mercy" to his own people. He compared them to rats, and threatened to go door to door to inflict punishment. In the past, we had seen him hang civilians in the streets, and kill over a thousand people in a single day. Now, we saw regime forces on the outskirts of the city. We knew that if we waited one more day, Benghazi - a city nearly the size of Charlotte - could suffer a massacre that would have reverberated across the region and stained the conscience of the world.
It was not in our national interest to let that happen. I refused to let that happen. And so nine days ago, after consulting the bipartisan leadership of Congress, I authorized military action to stop the killing and enforce UN Security Council Resolution 1973. We struck regime forces approaching Benghazi to save that city and the people within it. We hit Gaddafi's troops in neighboring Ajdabiya, allowing the opposition to drive them out. We hit his air defenses, which paved the way for a No Fly Zone. We targeted tanks and military assets that had been choking off towns and cities and we cut off much of their source of supply. And tonight, I can report that we have stopped Gaddafi's deadly advance. (But NOT ahmadinejad's.)
Me: This SAME scenario played itself out in iran. There were thugs in the streets. People disappeared. Opposition leaders were arrested, jailed, tortured, in some cases murdered or hung. The republican guard was ruthless. And the Green Revolution was defeated. And what was the difference? iran's revolution would have thrown off its strict islamic shackles and opted for a more westernized country.
Not only that, but they had the full sympathy and support of the American people.
ALL of the leaders who have been targetted for toppling have been ALLIES of the US. They have all helped us in one way or another. And they will ALL be taken over by islamic forces that hate us, hate the west, hate freedom, and have only one goal...a worldwide islamic caliphate. Those who have not yet been toppled are teetering precariously. Jordan might fall. Jordan has been our ally since WWII.
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I snipped it here because a lot of the next paragraphs are just useless and worthless patting himself on the back and rambling rhetoric. Posting the entire uncut speech after this if you want to read it.
Continuing further down:
obama:
Let me close by addressing what this action says about the use of America's military power, and America's broader leadership in the world, under my presidency.
"To be blunt, we went down that road in Iraq. Thanks to the extraordinary sacrifices of our troops and the determination of our diplomats, we are hopeful about Iraq's future. But regime change there took eight years, thousands of American and Iraqi lives, and nearly a trillion dollars. That is not something we can afford to repeat in Libya."
Me: In other words, eight years later, American troops and diplomats are STILL occupying/repressing a muslim country with no end in sight...still trying to control the outcome.
obama: "As Commander-in-Chief, I have no greater responsibility than keeping this country safe. And no decision weighs on me more than when to deploy our men and women in uniform. I have made it clear that I will never hesitate to use our military swiftly, decisively, and unilaterally when necessary to defend our people, our homeland, our allies, and our core interests. That is why we are going after al Qaeda wherever they seek a foothold. That is why we continue to fight in Afghanistan, even as we have ended our combat mission in Iraq and removed more than 100,000 troops from that country."
Me: obama would never have gone to iraq. Neither would he have gone to afghanistan. But once he became -resident, Us and western casualties skyrocketed. His administration bent over backwards to accommodate the taliban. And he is saying that iraq is weakened now, much more weakened with the removal of our fighting troops. It is ripe for the taking.
SNIP
obama:
There will be times, though, when our safety is not directly threatened, but our interests and values are. Sometimes, the course of history poses challenges that threaten our common humanity and common security - responding to natural disasters, for example; or preventing genocide and keeping the peace; ensuring regional security, and maintaining the flow of commerce. These may not be America's problems alone, but they are important to us, and they are problems worth solving. And in these circumstances, we know that the United States, as the world's most powerful nation, will often be called upon to help.
Me: The US was under NO threat. Most of us remember what happened in Kosovo. Most of us know that al qaeda, in conjunction with hardcore leftists in this, and other countries, are behind this uprising. Most of us have no love for qaddafi. In fact we loathe him. But that is the REAL false choice obama has presented to us. This was a war of evil against evil. It is a lose, lose for the US and the world. When evil fights itself, leave it alone.
So obama has chosen HIS personal evil and will support it to our detriment. IF he is allowed to arm al qaeda, the violence will spread farther and wider. Africa is doomed almost beyond resuscitation as it is. islam is killing and maiming and enslaving people wih utter abandon and no one is saying or doing anything about it. Europe is like an overripe fruit just waiting to fall.
It seems to me that the world is playing Russian Roulette and it is on the next to last chamber. Next comes the bullet. And they will be shocked when it happens.
obama:
This voice, (that greeted the pilot who crashed his jet in libya,) is just one of many in a region where a new generation is refusing to be denied their rights and opportunities any longer. Yes, this change will make the world more complicated for a time. Progress will be uneven, and change will come differently in different countries. There are places, like Egypt, where this change will inspire us and raise our hopes. And there will be places, like Iran, where change is fiercely suppressed. The dark forces of civil conflict and sectarian war will have to be averted, and difficult political and economic concerns addressed.
Me: This "change" will bring war to our doorstep. They can taste their victory. They feel they have already won, and this began when obama assumed the -residency. Everything he has done has benefitted their quest. His "leadership" has tanked our economy where 9/11 could not. He has severely weakened our military and we are stretched so thin that our troops are ragged, over-medicated, and war weary. He has allowed our troops to suffer untold losses in afghanistan. And NOW he is forcing OUR TROOPS to support the enemy they have been fighting for NINE years. HOW is this not treason?
He intervened and stopped the trial of khalid sheik mohammed after it had already begun. ksm was ready to plead guilty, but obama personally stopped it. He knew about the Christmas bomber and did nothing to stop him from landing in Detroit, Michigan. He alerted awlaki that we were hunting him to kill him so he could go into hiding. He refused to call the Fort Hood Massacre terrorism. He has placed a muslim in a position of authority at DOD that grants him access to all of our miltary secrets and gives him the ability to set policy. No correspondence goes in or out of DOD that does not pass through his hands. He has placed a muslim with terrorist ties in the upper management of Homeland Security. He refuses to call islamic terrorists what they are. He came out publicly FOR the Ground Zero victory mosque. He has instructed the state department to grant visas to known terrorists. He has allowed, and even facillitated a major influx of muslims into this country. He has refused to protect our borders.
More than this. Much more.
SNIP
obama:
Born, as we are, out of a revolution by those who longed to be free, we welcome the fact that history is on the move in the Middle East and North Africa, and that young people are leading the way. Because wherever people long to be free, they will find a friend in the United States. Ultimately, it is that faith - those ideals - that are the true measure of American leadership.
Me: THEIR history is one of a brutal and conquering islam. Global warfare. islamic dominance. That faith he is speaking of is his faith and their faith, not OUR faith. HE believes with his heart and soul that America was, and is, a colonial power that deserves defeat. History is on the move. islam is slowly but surely attaining its ultimate goal and HE is their friend and leader. He TOLD us this before he was elected. He said it straight up.
WHO among us welcomes a radical islamic takeover of ALL of our PREVIOUS allies in the Middle East?
obama:
My fellow Americans, I know that at a time of upheaval overseas - when the news is filled with conflict and change - it can be tempting to turn away from the world. And as I have said before, our strength abroad is anchored in our strength at home. That must always be our North Star - the ability of our people to reach their potential, to make wise choices with our resources, to enlarge the prosperity that serves as a wellspring of our power, and to live the values that we hold so dear.
Me: Now THERE is where it gets tricky.There is where he makes very clear that it is not OUR values he is talking about, but theirs. "OUR people" is not us, it's them, and he does not consider US his people.
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Update:
Imam Yusuf Al Qaradawi has now issued a fatwa against Moammar Khadafy for the Muslim world to:Kill Khadafy.
Youssef al-Qaradawi, head of the International Union of Muslim Scholars, has issued a fatwa permitting the killing of Libyan leader Muammar Qadhafi. He urged Libyan military forces not to obey the Libyan leaders orders to fire at Libyan protesters.
In a live interview on Al Jazeera satellite channel on Monday, al-Qaradwai said whoever can fire a bullet at Qadhafi should do so.
He further called on the Libyan people to unite in the face of oppression.
FULL TEXT
Good evening. Tonight, I’d like to update the American people on the international effort that we have led in Libya - what we have done, what we plan to do, and why this matters to us.
I want to begin by paying tribute to our men and women in uniform who, once again, have acted with courage, professionalism and patriotism. They have moved with incredible speed and strength. Because of them and our dedicated diplomats, a coalition has been forged and countless lives have been saved. Meanwhile, as we speak, our troops are supporting our ally Japan, leaving Iraq to its people, stopping the Taliban’s momentum in Afghanistan, and going after al Qaeda around the globe. As Commander-in-Chief, I am grateful to our Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines, Coast Guardsmen, and their families, as are all Americans.
For generations, the United States of America has played a unique role as an anchor of global security and advocate for human freedom. Mindful of the risks and costs of military action, we are naturally reluctant to use force to solve the world’s many challenges. But when our interests and values are at stake, we have a responsibility to act. That is what happened in Libya over the course of these last six weeks.
Libya sits directly between Tunisia and Egypt - two nations that inspired the world when their people rose up to take control of their own destiny. For more than four decades, the Libyan people have been ruled by a tyrant - Moammar Gaddafi. He has denied his people freedom, exploited their wealth, murdered opponents at home and abroad, and terrorized innocent people around the world - including Americans who were killed by Libyan agents.
Last month, Gaddafi’s grip of fear appeared to give way to the promise of freedom. In cities and towns across the country, Libyans took to the streets to claim their basic human rights. As one Libyan said, “For the first time we finally have hope that our nightmare of 40 years will soon be over.”
Faced with this opposition, Gaddafi began attacking his people. As President, my immediate concern was the safety of our citizens, so we evacuated our Embassy and all Americans who sought our assistance. We then took a series of swift steps in a matter of days to answer Gaddafi’s aggression. We froze more than $33 billion of the Gaddafi regime’s assets. Joining with other nations at the United Nations Security Council, we broadened our sanctions, imposed an arms embargo, and enabled Gaddafi and those around him to be held accountable for their crimes. I made it clear that Gaddafi had lost the confidence of his people and the legitimacy to lead, and I said that he needed to step down from power.
In the face of the world’s condemnation, Gaddafi chose to escalate his attacks, launching a military campaign against the Libyan people. Innocent people were targeted for killing. Hospitals and ambulances were attacked. Journalists were arrested, sexually assaulted, and killed. Supplies of food and fuel were choked off. The water for hundreds of thousands of people in Misratah was shut off. Cities and towns were shelled, mosques destroyed, and apartment buildings reduced to rubble. Military jets and helicopter gunships were unleashed upon people who had no means to defend themselves against assault from the air.
Confronted by this brutal repression and a looming humanitarian crisis, I ordered warships into the Mediterranean. European allies declared their willingness to commit resources to stop the killing. The Libyan opposition, and the Arab League, appealed to the world to save lives in Libya. At my direction, America led an effort with our allies at the United Nations Security Council to pass an historic Resolution that authorized a No Fly Zone to stop the regime’s attacks from the air, and further authorized all necessary measures to protect the Libyan people.
Ten days ago, having tried to end the violence without using force, the international community offered Gaddafi a final chance to stop his campaign of killing, or face the consequences. Rather than stand down, his forces continued their advance, bearing down on the city of Benghazi, home to nearly 700,000 men, women and children who sought their freedom from fear.
At this point, the United States and the world faced a choice. Gaddafi declared that he would show “no mercy” to his own people. He compared them to rats, and threatened to go door to door to inflict punishment. In the past, we had seen him hang civilians in the streets, and kill over a thousand people in a single day. Now, we saw regime forces on the outskirts of the city. We knew that if we waited one more day, Benghazi - a city nearly the size of Charlotte - could suffer a massacre that would have reverberated across the region and stained the conscience of the world.
It was not in our national interest to let that happen. I refused to let that happen. And so nine days ago, after consulting the bipartisan leadership of Congress, I authorized military action to stop the killing and enforce UN Security Council Resolution 1973. We struck regime forces approaching Benghazi to save that city and the people within it. We hit Gaddafi’s troops in neighboring Ajdabiya, allowing the opposition to drive them out. We hit his air defenses, which paved the way for a No Fly Zone. We targeted tanks and military assets that had been choking off towns and cities and we cut off much of their source of supply. And tonight, I can report that we have stopped Gaddafi’s deadly advance.
In this effort, the United States has not acted alone. Instead, we have been joined by a strong and growing coalition. This includes our closest allies - nations like the United Kingdom, France, Canada, Denmark, Norway, Italy, Spain, Greece, and Turkey - all of whom have fought by our side for decades. And it includes Arab partners like Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, who have chosen to meet their responsibility to defend the Libyan people.
To summarize, then: in just one month, the United States has worked with our international partners to mobilize a broad coalition, secure an international mandate to protect civilians, stop an advancing army, prevent a massacre, and establish a No Fly Zone with our allies and partners. To lend some perspective on how rapidly this military and diplomatic response came together, when people were being brutalized in Bosnia in the 1990s, it took the international community more than a year to intervene with air power to protect civilians.
Moreover, we have accomplished these objectives consistent with the pledge that I made to the American people at the outset of our military operations. I said that America’s role would be limited; that we would not put ground troops into Libya; that we would focus our unique capabilities on the front end of the operation, and that we would transfer responsibility to our allies and partners. Tonight, we are fulfilling that pledge.
Our most effective alliance, NATO, has taken command of the enforcement of the arms embargo and No Fly Zone. Last night, NATO decided to take on the additional responsibility of protecting Libyan civilians. This transfer from the United States to NATO will take place on Wednesday. Going forward, the lead in enforcing the No Fly Zone and protecting civilians on the ground will transition to our allies and partners, and I am fully confident that our coalition will keep the pressure on Gaddafi’s remaining forces. In that effort, the United States will play a supporting role - including intelligence, logistical support, search and rescue assistance, and capabilities to jam regime communications. Because of this transition to a broader, NATO-based coalition, the risk and cost of this operation - to our military, and to American taxpayers - will be reduced significantly.
So for those who doubted our capacity to carry out this operation, I want to be clear: the United States of America has done what we said we would do.
That is not to say that our work is complete. In addition to our NATO responsibilities, we will work with the international community to provide assistance to the people of Libya, who need food for the hungry and medical care for the wounded. We will safeguard the more than $33 billion that was frozen from the Gaddafi regime so that it is available to rebuild Libya. After all, this money does not belong to Gaddafi or to us - it belongs to the Libyan people, and we will make sure they receive it.
Tomorrow, Secretary Clinton will go to London, where she will meet with the Libyan opposition and consult with more than thirty nations. These discussions will focus on what kind of political effort is necessary to pressure Gaddafi, while also supporting a transition to the future that the Libyan people deserve. Because while our military mission is narrowly focused on saving lives, we continue to pursue the broader goal of a Libya that belongs not to a dictator, but to its people.
Despite the success of our efforts over the past week, I know that some Americans continue to have questions about our efforts in Libya. Gaddafi has not yet stepped down from power, and until he does, Libya will remain dangerous. Moreover, even after Gaddafi does leave power, forty years of tyranny has left Libya fractured and without strong civil institutions. The transition to a legitimate government that is responsive to the Libyan people will be a difficult task. And while the United States will do our part to help, it will be a task for the international community, and - more importantly - a task for the Libyan people themselves.
In fact, much of the debate in Washington has put forward a false choice when it comes to Libya. On the one hand, some question why America should intervene at all - even in limited ways - in this distant land. They argue that there are many places in the world where innocent civilians face brutal violence at the hands of their government, and America should not be expected to police the world, particularly when we have so many pressing concerns here at home.
It is true that America cannot use our military wherever repression occurs. And given the costs and risks of intervention, we must always measure our interests against the need for action. But that cannot be an argument for never acting on behalf of what’s right. In this particular country - Libya; at this particular moment, we were faced with the prospect of violence on a horrific scale. We had a unique ability to stop that violence: an international mandate for action, a broad coalition prepared to join us, the support of Arab countries, and a plea for help from the Libyan people themselves. We also had the ability to stop Gaddafi’s forces in their tracks without putting American troops on the ground.
To brush aside America’s responsibility as a leader and - more profoundly - our responsibilities to our fellow human beings under such circumstances would have been a betrayal of who we are. Some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries. The United States of America is different. And as President, I refused to wait for the images of slaughter and mass graves before taking action.
Moreover, America has an important strategic interest in preventing Gaddafi from overrunning those who oppose him. A massacre would have driven thousands of additional refugees across Libya’s borders, putting enormous strains on the peaceful - yet fragile - transitions in Egypt and Tunisia. The democratic impulses that are dawning across the region would be eclipsed by the darkest form of dictatorship, as repressive leaders concluded that violence is the best strategy to cling to power. The writ of the UN Security Council would have been shown to be little more than empty words, crippling its future credibility to uphold global peace and security. So while I will never minimize the costs involved in military action, I am convinced that a failure to act in Libya would have carried a far greater price for America.
Now, just as there are those who have argued against intervention in Libya, there are others who have suggested that we broaden our military mission beyond the task of protecting the Libyan people, and do whatever it takes to bring down Gaddafi and usher in a new government.
Of course, there is no question that Libya - and the world - will be better off with Gaddafi out of power. I, along with many other world leaders, have embraced that goal, and will actively pursue it through non-military means. But broadening our military mission to include regime change would be a mistake.
The task that I assigned our forces - to protect the Libyan people from immediate danger, and to establish a No Fly Zone - carries with it a UN mandate and international support. It is also what the Libyan opposition asked us to do. If we tried to overthrow Gaddafi by force, our coalition would splinter. We would likely have to put U.S. troops on the ground, or risk killing many civilians from the air. The dangers faced by our men and women in uniform would be far greater. So would the costs, and our share of the responsibility for what comes next.
To be blunt, we went down that road in Iraq. Thanks to the extraordinary sacrifices of our troops and the determination of our diplomats, we are hopeful about Iraq’s future. But regime change there took eight years, thousands of American and Iraqi lives, and nearly a trillion dollars. That is not something we can afford to repeat in Libya.
As the bulk of our military effort ratchets down, what we can do - and will do - is support the aspirations of the Libyan people. We have intervened to stop a massacre, and we will work with our allies and partners as they’re in the lead to maintain the safety of civilians. We will deny the regime arms, cut off its supply of cash, assist the opposition, and work with other nations to hasten the day when Gaddafi leaves power. It may not happen overnight, as a badly weakened Gaddafi tries desperately to hang on to power. But it should be clear to those around Gadaffi, and to every Libyan, that history is not on his side. With the time and space that we have provided for the Libyan people, they will be able to determine their own destiny, and that is how it should be.
Let me close by addressing what this action says about the use of America’s military power, and America’s broader leadership in the world, under my presidency.
As Commander-in-Chief, I have no greater responsibility than keeping this country safe. And no decision weighs on me more than when to deploy our men and women in uniform. I have made it clear that I will never hesitate to use our military swiftly, decisively, and unilaterally when necessary to defend our people, our homeland, our allies, and our core interests. That is why we are going after al Qaeda wherever they seek a foothold. That is why we continue to fight in Afghanistan, even as we have ended our combat mission in Iraq and removed more than 100,000 troops from that country.
There will be times, though, when our safety is not directly threatened, but our interests and values are. Sometimes, the course of history poses challenges that threaten our common humanity and common security - responding to natural disasters, for example; or preventing genocide and keeping the peace; ensuring regional security, and maintaining the flow of commerce. These may not be America’s problems alone, but they are important to us, and they are problems worth solving. And in these circumstances, we know that the United States, as the world’s most powerful nation, will often be called upon to help.
In such cases, we should not be afraid to act - but the burden of action should not be America’s alone. As we have in Libya, our task is instead to mobilize the international community for collective action. Because contrary to the claims of some, American leadership is not simply a matter of going it alone and bearing all of the burden ourselves. Real leadership creates the conditions and coalitions for others to step up as well; to work with allies and partners so that they bear their share of the burden and pay their share of the costs; and to see that the principles of justice and human dignity are upheld by all.
That’s the kind of leadership we have shown in Libya. Of course, even when we act as part of a coalition, the risks of any military action will be high. Those risks were realized when one of our planes malfunctioned over Libya. Yet when one of our airmen parachuted to the ground, in a country whose leader has so often demonized the United States - in a region that has such a difficult history with our country - this American did not find enemies. Instead, he was met by people who embraced him. One young Libyan who came to his aid said, “We are your friends. We are so grateful to these men who are protecting the skies.”
This voice is just one of many in a region where a new generation is refusing to be denied their rights and opportunities any longer. Yes, this change will make the world more complicated for a time. Progress will be uneven, and change will come differently in different countries. There are places, like Egypt, where this change will inspire us and raise our hopes. And there will be places, like Iran, where change is fiercely suppressed. The dark forces of civil conflict and sectarian war will have to be averted, and difficult political and economic concerns addressed.
The United States will not be able to dictate the pace and scope of this change. Only the people of the region can do that. But we can make a difference. I believe that this movement of change cannot be turned back, and that we must stand alongside those who believe in the same core principles that have guided us through many storms: our opposition to violence directed against one’s own citizens; our support for a set of universal rights, including the freedom for people to express themselves and choose their leaders; our support for governments that are ultimately responsive to the aspirations of the people.
Born, as we are, out of a revolution by those who longed to be free, we welcome the fact that history is on the move in the Middle East and North Africa, and that young people are leading the way. Because wherever people long to be free, they will find a friend in the United States. Ultimately, it is that faith - those ideals - that are the true measure of American leadership.
My fellow Americans, I know that at a time of upheaval overseas - when the news is filled with conflict and change - it can be tempting to turn away from the world. And as I have said before, our strength abroad is anchored in our strength at home. That must always be our North Star - the ability of our people to reach their potential, to make wise choices with our resources, to enlarge the prosperity that serves as a wellspring of our power, and to live the values that we hold so dear.
But let us also remember that for generations, we have done the hard work of protecting our own people, as well as millions around the globe. We have done so because we know that our own future is safer and brighter if more of mankind can live with the bright light of freedom and dignity. Tonight, let us give thanks for the Americans who are serving through these trying times, and the coalition that is carrying our effort forward; and let us look to the future with confidence and hope not only for our own country, but for all those yearning for freedom around the world. Thank you, God Bless you, and may God Bless the United States of America
http://www.khutbah.com/en/ed_know/faith_language.php
As immigrants or children of immigrants, most of us speak two languages. We convinced ourselves that we must learn English so we can get ahead in this world. Now, we must remind ourselves that we must learn Arabic, so we can get ahead in the next world.
Let no Muslim think that Arabic is not their people’s tongue. It is the language of our deen. Calling people to this language is not a nationalistic call, it is a call to the Muslim to raise his or her head and say, My faith has a language; it’s called Arabic!
http://www.khutbah.com/en/ed_know/humanity_teacher.php
“Furthermore, when a person learns how to pass on the message of Islam, he will be healthier. What I mean by healthier is that when someone is unsuccessful in conveying something to people, it negatively affects his health. He gets high blood pressure, gets angry, and cannot control himself because he has not learned how to pass on the information properly to others. I have seen some people who when they give dawah, although they are very knowledgeable, in some issues they only know one daleel. So they will say the one daleel, and the other person will reply, Well how do you know that that is a daleel? Even though what the person is saying is a true opinion, he has no other proofs. You know what proof number two is? It is anger. He will say, No, you have to believe what Im saying, and then it turns into a fight. The third daleel is more anger, the fourth daleel is a punch, the fifth daleel is a karate kick, until, like a swat team he beats the person so that he can guide him. Subhan Allah, anger is not proof; just because a person gets angry does not mean that he has the truth. If a person actually knows the proof, it brings him calmness and he will not get frustrated because he will realize that he can help if he is just a bit smoother in his explanation.”
obama:
As I have said repeatedly
Let me be clear
arrogance
anger
hand gestures
“no drama obama”
personal destruction of “the unbeliever” so he can be forcefully “taught”
http://www.khutbah.com/en/ed_know/why_study.php
“In another land, in another time, chilly Baghdad winds would wake up another boy. His mother would bundle him in warm shawls and escort him through the darkness before fajr making sure he reached the masjid safely. After fajr she would wait for him as he read hadith to the biggest scholars of the land. Then she would meet him outside and together they would walk home. She was a strong mother indeed, for her son grew up to become an imam of the Muslim ummah,...”
obama has stated that in this tradition, his mother woke him at 4:00 AM to teach him, make sure he got to his school in Indonesia, and home again. He ALSO studied to become an imam. Learned the TRADITIONAL quran in perfect arabic. Has repeated the shahada, the oath to islam, in public in perfect arabic.
21 Techniques for teaching islam
Technique #1: Do Not Bore the Listener
Technique #2: Speak at the Intellectual Level of the Listener When an individual is speaking to someone, he should be aware of how much that person already knows.
Technique #3: Use Questions and Debate
Technique #4: Use Analogies
Technique #5: Use Diagrams or Drawings
Technique #6: Use Gestures While Talking
The Prophet sal Allaahu alayhi wa sallam used both statements and hand movements or gestures while talking. The first hadith example of this is well known, which is when the Prophet sal Allaahu alayhi wa sallam raised his hand saying:
I and the one who takes care of the orphans are in paradise, like this (Bukhari).
And he joined his fingers. You rarely find that someone recalls this hadith without following the Sunnah of the Prophet sal Allaahu alayhi wa sallam in putting his fingers like that.
Oftentimes, the psychology of hand movements is studied and used in business for material reasons. But when it comes to teaching our kids about Islam, these books get ignored. From this field we find that if I wanted to make you comfortable, I would start imitating where your hands are. If I start imitating the way the other person is acting, then he will feel comfortable. For example, you might find a teacher who is a little bit too unlike the students and so they do not feel comfortable around him. However, another teacher, who just got out of university and is twenty-three years old with long hair and has a hobby of skateboarding and he is teaching Islam would be the most successful daee because his students would feel most comfortable with him.
If someone starts imitating the way people act, he will make them comfortable, and that happens with hand movements. So, if someone is standing leaning back with his hands on his hips, then maybe I could stand leaning back with my hands on my hips. Similarly, if I dont want to scare someone when talking to him, I would stand beside him, rather than in front of him. Standing in front of someone gives off the feeling of confrontation, while standing to the side gives a feeling of working together in a problem.
Technique #7: Use Tangible Examples,
Technique #8: Answer Questions Before They are Asked
Technique #9: Answer With More Than What is Asked
Technique #10: Turn the Question into Something That Will Be of More Benefit
Technique #11: Allow Others to Answer the Questions
Technique #12: Take Advantage of Teaching Moments
Technique #13: Use Playful Fun
Out of all the techniques this one is the most foreign to our communities. Take the science of smiling. If I had a big smile on my face and I said to you, I hate you all, what would your reaction be? You cannot hate someone who is smiling at you. Even if their words contradict what they are saying, you have to love them. But if I changed the tone of my voice then I could make you cry, or even hate me in return.
When people give dawah they may think that from their taqwah to Allah subhaanahu wa taaala they must frown at everyone. Meaning that they feel they are being rewarded by Allah subhaanahu wa taaala for showing hatred. I asked some of the ulama regarding this and was told of a very evil man who came to the home of the Prophet sal Allaahu alayhi wa sallam. The Prophet sal Allaahu alayhi wa sallam told ‘Aisha radi Allahu anha about how evil this person was yet when that man came into his home, the Prophet sal Allaahu alayhi wa sallam smiled at him. This intrigued ‘Aisha radi Allahu anha so much so that when the man left, she asked the Prophet sal Allaahu alayhi wa sallam and he said:
Verily, we smile in the faces of some people and our hearts curse them.
Technique #14: Using Oaths for Emphasis
Technique #15: Repeat, Repeat, Repeat
If there was something that needed emphasis, the Prophet sal Allaahu alayhi wa sallam, would repeat it three times.
Technique #16: Calling Out to the Listener and Remaining Silent
\When someone’s giving a speech, the pauses are almost as important as are his words. Sometimes a speaker will say some amazing points and then move on to the next point without giving people time to mentally digest what was said. Subhan Allah, if a person knows when to put in those pauses between important points and just remain silent, there will be attention paid to what he is saying.
Technique # 17: Making Physical Contact When Speaking
The Prophet peace be upon him would hold the hand or the shoulder of the person to whom he was speaking, to make the person pay attention
Technique # 18: Using Cliffhangers
Technique # 19: Using Stories and Accounts from the Past
Technique #20: Paying Attention to Focus Groups
Technique #21: Using Anger
The students know that if I am angry I will lower my voice and if I am really angry, I will whisper in their ear and they know they are in big trouble then
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Just finished reading and can see how much effort you put forth in these posts. Thank you. Can absolutely see B0 using these techniques....especially the “big smile”. That’s what really jumped out at me from the beginning. That “smile” was phoney and sinister (to me) but so many were taken in by it as well as the way he spoke.
And the cadence in his speaking that hypnotized all those dimwits that supported him drives me nuts! I pray we can *unring the bell he has rung*.
Thanks for your brilliant take on all this. few of us have the time or intellect to go where you have so eloquently gone.
I don’t know, you know? It’s an awful lot to digest. There are other convolutions and intricacies that would take me forever to try and explain. But the more you know, the more there is to know, and the better to see them with, my dear.
The point is, islam contains endless minutia and they add more every day. But the imams are well aware of most of them, and soon become aware of the latest. obama was trained early. He received the formal training required to become an imam. As I said before, I believe he finished his training on his trip to pakistan and is a fully qualified and authorized imam.
Gargary, habibi. Gargary.
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And from this speech, it is clear that obama feels he is also a muslim leader.
Setting the target:
Before you can grasp the context of obama's libya speech, there are a couple of things you need to know that most people don't.
FIRST
obama was not speaking to us. He was speaking to muslims. - He laid out the NEXT target. American diplomats and our miltary in Iraq and Afghanistan... their families, Americans anywhere, and finally western allies of America.
SECOND
People speculated why his speech MIGHT have been timed so as not to preempt Dancing With the Stars.
In islam, specific muslim prayers, must be said before giving public speeches,
and the speeches must follow either NOON or Evening prayers.
Remember when obama left Netanyahu to "go to dinner" wirh his wife and children, then returned an hour later?
His wife and children were not even home that day,
yet no one really paid attention to the timing, only the rudeness to Netanyahu.; or when he left bill clinton alone at the podium in the WH briefing room? He kept looking at his watch nervously, and finally just walked out.
THIRD ..."
. . . . Continued.
Long, but very important post at # 30.
Thanks, MestaMachine. Reading your comment has made me sicker'n a dog.
May I borrow just a bit of your brain?
You have an awesome intellect and superb reasoning skills. Thanks for ‘splainin’ this to those of us less gifted.
I always knew he was muslim.....you just re-confirmed it.
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