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Why libs are lovin' the birthers: Is The Donald a secret agent for the Dems? (Clarence spins it)
The Chicago Tribune ^ | March 30, 2011 | Clarence Page

Posted on 03/29/2011 7:05:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Donald Trump has joined the "birthers," the odd movement that questions President Barack Obama's Hawaii birth certificate. That's a good way for the celebrity billionaire to appear as though he's making a serious run for the Republican presidential nomination, which he says he is considering. It also makes him sound like a secret agent for the Democrats.

That oddly credible possibility has been raised by frustrated conservatives like radio talk-show host John Gibson, who sounded furious earlier this week at the way birthers make Republicans look like the crazy party.

That unfortunate image only hurts the party's chances with the sensible independent swing voters it needs to win general elections. Now Trump is bringing even more attention to the birthers. Surely, Gibson speculated, tongue only partly in cheek, Trump sounds like some sort of RINO, a Republican-in-name-only who's secretly trying to help Obama.

Robert Schlesinger, opinion editor at U.S. News and World Report, similarly asked in a blog whether Trump is "really an Obama sleeper agent."

Indeed, if Obama is not directly supporting Trump, he has good reason to root secretly for the birther movement, whose backing Trump seeks....

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; democrats; donaldtrump; naturalborncitizen; obama; pawlenty; secretagent; trump
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To: Vendome

511 was the resolution I have been speaking about. They know all about Obama .


61 posted on 03/29/2011 8:51:23 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: musicman

LOL


62 posted on 03/29/2011 8:52:43 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: CommieCutter

She has her claws in there.


63 posted on 03/29/2011 8:53:14 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Immerito

Welcome. That particular rumor is a pet peeve of mine.


64 posted on 03/29/2011 8:55:45 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Jess Kitting

Thank you for the kind post..unlike some others.

Brings a question. How did he get a passport and how did he come up with the cash to travel since he hasnt a BC (or at least wont release it) and he was supposed to be flat broke at the time?

I am starting to think along the lines of Davis is his real daddy and he doesnt want to get into a political row over his daddy being a communist. On the other hand, why the fake Social Security Numbers?..if that is true? Maybe they didnt want Davis listed on his BC and listed Obama instead? Which would bring him under the citizenship thing.

Obama is backed into a corner and cant get out of it.


65 posted on 03/29/2011 8:56:39 PM PDT by crz
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To: Tex-Con-Man

I would say the only reason not to release your birth certificate is because you either don’t have one or you are hiding something. Plus its not just the birth certificate, its a whole portfolio of documents that are usually public knwoledge about most presidents such as college transcripts, thesis, medical records etc. Obama on his first day in office issued an executive order sealing all of his personal information and has spent over $1 million dollars defending himself in court agains’t making any of this stuff public. Its bizarre to say the least and it lends itself to further doubts about his eligibility to be President. What is the guy doing with a Connecticut Social Security number? He never lived in Connecticut.

The whole world knows that Bush was a C student and that McCain was in the bottom 25% of his class at Annapolis Naval Academy. He also had to show his birth certificate to prove his eligibility to run for president in 2008. We know the birth place of every president in history except for Barack Obama.

I think that sometimes where there is smoke there really is fire.


66 posted on 03/29/2011 8:57:18 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Jess Kitting

Another question, How much did it cost to fly to Pakistan or India in 1981?

I would guess quite a bit.


67 posted on 03/29/2011 9:01:28 PM PDT by crz
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To: crz

Yes, I saw Post 31 and it reads:

“You know what I love best about all of these guys? They will extrapolate any theory about anybody except for one. Why doesn’t Obama just show his birth certificate. They just can’t seem to get their head around that one.”

As of now I fail to see how that post can serve as you source for you statement that there was a Pakistan Travel Ban in 1981.

Now, could you please post an actual source for your statement that there was a Pakistan Travel Ban in 1981?


68 posted on 03/29/2011 9:11:47 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why is it odd that we want to know who this person is who’s been elected, since he can’t provide any identification?


70 posted on 03/29/2011 9:34:47 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Indeed, if Obama is not directly supporting Trump, he has good reason to root secretly for the birther movement, whose backing Trump seeks....

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Poor Clarence Page. The way he makes fun of Trump and the Obama birth certificate issue reminds me of the many commentators who made fun of the Tea Party movement when the movement was first created many months ago.

And of course we know how the Tea Party movement has turned out, and no commentator or politician who is anybody makes fun of the Tea Party anymore.

Poor Page. I think that he is under the sad delusion that the Obama camp is loving every minute of the way Trump---through the power of his strong personality and his world-wide fame---has almost single-handedly suddenly thrust the Obama birth certificate issue into the public mainstream.

So I disagree with Page's theory (1)that Trump may be helping Obama unwittingly, (2)that the Obama camp is loving every minute of it, and (3)that the Obama camp is secretly encouraging Trump to continue to challenge Obama to show his Hawaii long form birth certificate, if it even exists.

On the contrary, I believe that the Obama camp---especially those Obama people in the Obama Whitehouse---are so scared that this Trump birth certificate issue will spiral out of control that they are wetting their pants every time Trump goes on television and challenges Obama to show the world his long form birth certificate.

As I see it, if Obama continues to refuse to release his long form birth certificate as we get deeper and deeper into the 2012 presidential campaign---if the certificate even exists---then the American public will have no choice but to start distrusting the President of the United States, because the public will finally realize that Obama is not who he says he is and that he has been lying all along about the details of his birth in Hawaii in 1961.

So Page and other commentators can continue to laugh at Trump as Trump talks more and more about Obama's Hawaii birth certificate issue, but I hope they remember one thing: He who laughs last, laughs best.

So we will see who has the last laugh on election night in Nov. 2012.

71 posted on 03/29/2011 9:45:16 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: Celtic Cross
Isn't that sort of an oxymoron?

Either that or a sort of mythical beings like leprechauns or the tooth fairy.

72 posted on 03/29/2011 9:51:09 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: CommieCutter
" Liberals are just waking up to this. "

Those of us on Free Republic have been wide awake on this since 2008.
73 posted on 03/29/2011 9:52:14 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
If I were in his position, I would be disinclined to voluntarily provide evidence to my political opponents whose publicly stated purpose is my removal from office.

Which is understandable, and naturally leads to the assumption that said birth certificate would be just such evidence as would lead to his removal from office.

74 posted on 03/29/2011 9:58:53 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Seems like a move by Hillary & Co. to jettison Zero pre-2012. Doubt it’ll happen.

Hawaiian official states they have the long form and they’ve seen it.. but we can’t. Quoted here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32180625/ns/politics-white_house

Notice the official confuses “native born” (anchor baby) with “natural born” (both parents U.S. citizens).


75 posted on 03/29/2011 11:06:26 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think he might be an agent of Hillary. Or he sees the writing on the wall and knows he has to politically knock out Obama to be president.


76 posted on 03/29/2011 11:41:41 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

77 posted on 03/30/2011 12:20:27 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Minn
I think the best evidence suggests that Obama was born in Hawaii.

"Best evidence"? You need to share that, because no one else around here has seen anything that would qualify as evidence that Zero was born in Hawaii.

78 posted on 03/30/2011 12:45:19 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama is going to keep his bc hidden so the Left has to try to label people as crazy.

For the sake of argument let's say the people are crazy... these crazy people still vote. Obama could woo these voters by simply showing his bc but doesn't.

Therefor one can surmise that if Obama showed his bc there is something on it that would ruin him completely and that is why he spends millions of dollars to keep it hidden.

This is so fundamentally simple to see it is ridiculous.

Now who is crazy, for real?

79 posted on 03/30/2011 1:46:45 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (I agree with Louis Farrakhan. Who The Hell Is Obama!?)
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To: Minn

Where there is smoke there is fire....


80 posted on 03/30/2011 2:01:35 AM PDT by Sprite518
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