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Can't believe CNN actually aired this verbal exchange... (Earthquake related)
03/13/2011

Posted on 03/13/2011 12:42:04 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

Earlier this AM CNN aired an exchange between a reporter stateside on the CNN set and a reporter in Japan.

The reporter in Japan was commenting on how calm and orderly everyone was while waiting in line at stores for water, food and gas.

He said that they had several full gas cans on their truck to get them where they were going and they felt comfortable leaving their vehicle unattended while going inside stores to buy food or to interview people.

He then compared it to his experiences during Katrina when their vehicle was completely looted of gas, food, water and even their personal gear and bags right under their noses.

He then said that the difference between the human response to the situation was almost night and day, the Japanese were very orderly and calm while the Katrina survivors were totally out of control.

I was amazed that CNN let him air such views. While completely truthful they show a side of our population we all know is there, but to speak of it, to even refer to it is viewed as racist...


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KEYWORDS: cnn; cnnracists; mypeople; racismatcnn; racist; racistericholder; someculturesare; superior2others
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To: RobbyS

The Germans are rapidly catching up with the Austrians ~ NOTE: Germany and the Benelux have substantial populations of government employees who have as their job picking up stuff. Austria and America, except for Bransom Missouri and Disneyland, do not!


161 posted on 03/13/2011 6:48:14 PM PDT by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Americans)
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To: robowombat

” The multiple failure of the floodwalls and the Industrial Canal/IntercoastalWaterway levees stunned everyone.”

Not everyone. It was forty years ago that I was first told that, no matter how much money the feds gave NOLA for levees, the politicians spent it on booze, drugs, and whores.

I had been waiting for those levees to give way for decades.


162 posted on 03/13/2011 6:58:03 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: llevrok

“It’s a crush. But very orderly. No stampedes or fights, EVER.”

Sometimes there are.


163 posted on 03/13/2011 7:16:07 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: muawiyah

Back in the day, one could find the way from K-Town to Baumholder Army post without road signs. Just follow the litter on the side of the roads. In the village where we lived. my wife would get out on Saturday morning sweeping the sidewalks As soon as she did, Germans would out of their houses so as not to be outdone. Germans are trained to follow rules. Culture matters. And deeply rooted. They say the the slovenly ways of hillbillies can be traced back to their ancesteral homes in Britain. In Central Texas, back in the day, you could easily tell a Germany farm from an “English”one. The Germans weren’t necessarily better farmers than the “English,” but their equipment was better maintained and their farms looked better. The great delusion of the liberal is that culture does not matter, that one can change culture at will without dire consequence. After all, don’t we know more than our ancestors? But my wife was outsweeping because her West Virginia grandfather always kept everything as neat as a pin, and he was doing what his dad had done, and his ancestors before him, back to somewhere in Germany. You never can tell about culture. That black music is played on the black keys of the piano may tell us something about black culture, why there are so few black mathematicians. Who knows. They are not much into discursive thinking. Their religion is not very theological.


164 posted on 03/13/2011 7:44:27 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: RobbyS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br2D0cFE5Po featuring a Marian Williams, a gospel singer, doing a piece composed by an ancestor of mine, John Leland, based on an ancient Greek vesper he’d translated (circa 375 AD or thereabouts ~ and maybe even pre-Christian). He also worked directly with James Madison to write the First Amendment. So what is it “black culture” is based on?


165 posted on 03/13/2011 7:53:55 PM PDT by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Americans)
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To: DTogo; The Antiyuppie; maikeru; Dr. Marten; Eric in the Ozarks; Al Gator; snowsislander; ...
Well said (#50). There is also the shikata ga nai ("it can't be helped") attitude in Japan where many don't dwell on misfortune in self-pity, but instead perservere.

There's no comparison, obviously, between the recent catastrophic tragedy in Japan and a children's animated film, but I saw some of the attitude you have described in the film "Ponyo" during a scene when a tiny island neighborhood is mysteriously flooded by unusual high tides, and how the community reacted to it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0876563/

166 posted on 03/13/2011 8:04:40 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: dsc
There needs to be a little background info before making comments. In 1965 the flood protection of New Orleans was absorbed by the US Army Corps of Engineers (COE) as one of the elements of the Mississippi-Missouri flood control and water management system. At that time it ceased to be a responsibility of the Orleans Parish Levee Board. This switch may have been as a result of bargains struck by then Sen. Russell Long and LBJ over getting Long to sign on or at least not oppose funding Great Society programs as Long was the Senate Finance Committee chair. The COE took approximately five years to complete the flood control plan and design the structures. The key structures were not levees , which are large berm like structures but floodwalls to line the outfall canals which carry water away from the city and into Lake Pontchartrain. During the design a critical error was made in calculating load bearing resistance of these walls. The factor applied for the point of greatest stress the toe or forward edge of the bottom of the wall was switched with the factor for the point of greatest strength the point on the foundation of the wall directly below the apex of the wall. How this gross error was made has never been explained. It certainly had nothing to do with pricing the project. It is this gross error that led to the flood walls being designed to fail not through any particular corruption scandal. The scandal is that the US government's premier public works agency perpetrated such a gross and in some way elementary error. The flood walls failed on the London Ave and 17th Street Canals when a large but not excessive surge entered the canals from the lake. The understrength walls cracked due to the weight of the surge at several locations and what followed was like a dike breaking.

The concrete levee walls on the Inner Harbor Industrial Canal/Intercoastal Waterway were always a federal responsibility since the canal was built in the early 1920’s by the city and accepted into the Intercoastal Waterway system. Major overhaul of these structures had ben listed as a proposed COE project since the mid-1950’s but never made the funding cut in the annual COE water projects appropriation. Earth levees on the lake shore of St Bernard Parish were also part of the federal system, I presume as part of the Mississippi River -Gulf Outlet.(MRGO) This project was built in the 1950’s to cut distance off of the outward and inbound distance vessels traveling to New Orleans Port had to travel from the Gulf of Mexico. It was also a sort of roundabout to allow speedy entry into the inner harbor by larger cargo vessels appearing that could not use the Industrial Canal. Attempts to widen the canal had been tried since about 1950 but the hundreds of homes that would have been claimed along with commercial properties in any such widening caused politicians from the 7th and 9th Wards to keep the project from ever going anywhere. This also helped undermine overhauling the canal walls because the widening project kept being pushed by the Port Authority and shipping interests. When the storm came the canal and MRGO walls and levees were subjected to a heavier surge than the flood walls further east. Fracturing of the nearly 80 year old canal wall at Tennessee St. led to the mass flooding of the lower 9th Ward and much of St Bernard. The wall fractured above Tennessee St. also. Exact location i have forgotten. The earth berm levees on the MRGO had not been continuously upgraded because the MRGO never approached the activity levels anticipated and funding for it was always limited to normal maintenance, not major rebuild and upgrade.

There is an element of local malfeasance in this story. When the flood control responsibilities for Orleans Parish switched to the COE the Orleans Parish Levee Board ceased to be considered a serious organization as it had been. It's professional staff was absorbed mostly by the Parish Water Board and the positions became a classic empty political sinecure. The Levee Board began to focus on such trivia as getting funds for a portable bridge for one of the riverboat casinos. An alert Levee Board would have noted troubling evidence of leakage under the flood walls during periods of heavy rain and the aging nature of the Industrial Canal walls.

Corruption and as I have written incompetence has certainly been part of the problems of NOLA. However, the failure of the flood control system was more from errors by experts and inattention and complacency.after all New Orleans had come through a heavy storm in 1965 with extensive but non catastrophic flooding and no breaks in the flood control structures.

167 posted on 03/13/2011 8:55:39 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: llevrok
red state and blue state.

Having seen a lot of county by county national election maps, I'd say red county/blue county.

You can see the cities by the blue counties.

168 posted on 03/13/2011 9:18:13 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: muawiyah
Well, it is Southern, for one thing. Whatever the elements that blended together, those of Africans, Indians, and the Anglo-Celt-German whites. That means anti-intellectual, an honor society with a notion of honor quite different from the Northern idea. The Lee brothers went north to go to school, to Yale, and the New Englanders found them to have temperament rather than intellect. No one could accused Robert E, Lee or his sons of lacking intelligence, but it was something leonine about it, something you can see in someone like Mohammed Ali, or Malcolm X. I once saw a documentary about Malcolm. I recall the scene where he is is just out of prison and he is speaking to the public for about the first time. Then an interview a couple of years later. Sheer, raw intelligence. The increase in sophistication stunned me. I can't ever imagine him as a lawyer. He didn't argue; he commanded. A demagogue,of the first water, and in this way he reminded of Tom Watson. Except he didn't drink. Cold, sober and dangerous. George Wallace had some of that, but a different manner. Yeah, to go, back, Southern . What Tom Sowell calls "Black Red Neck."
169 posted on 03/13/2011 9:22:30 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
You could also say uni-cultural society, vs. multicultural society. Less identity politics.

You could. The existing term is "ethnostate". Japan is an ethnostate, meaning it is made up of people exclusively (or overwhelmingly) of one ethnic background: Japanese.

There are still many ethnostates in the world, but they are shrinking. Poland and Iceland come to mind.

170 posted on 03/13/2011 9:55:58 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: robowombat
There are something like 45 countries in Africa. A few in North Africa are run by Arabs, the rest by blacks. Which are the shining jewels of well-run governments? Which is better administered - the worst country in Europe (Albania?) or the best in Africa (Kenya?).

Why? If you say "legacy of colonialism" how do you explain India's success. India was run by the Brits for almost 300 years. Most of Africa by various European nations for less than 100.

???

171 posted on 03/13/2011 10:09:06 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Eva
The difference is that in the good old USA a citizen would be arrested fined, charged with “environmental crimes”. So you dare not. This is amurika. We charge people with crimes. I saw a thread with Freepers applauding a felony charge against a young girl who killed a hamster. This is america. We really can't build enough jails to keep the attorney's happy.
172 posted on 03/13/2011 10:33:46 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: DariusBane

I saw that thread. I cannot believe that Freepers were on the side of the animal rights laws. That is really disheartening. Animal rights’ law! Yuk.

Did you check how long the posters had been members of FreeRepublic and what their other posts indicated?


173 posted on 03/13/2011 10:37:43 PM PDT by Eva
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I decided to read the thread before I posted that word, and was appalled that it took 96 comments before I saw it. I lived in Japan, and you are absolutely correct: the diference -- at all levels from the personal to the national -- is

Honor...


174 posted on 03/13/2011 10:58:27 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Look at a phpto of any large Japanese group, and you will see folks wearing surgical masks.

They wear them not to keep from catching a cold, but to prevent the dishonor of giving their cold to others.

175 posted on 03/13/2011 11:07:18 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: DTogo

Thanks — I was wondering about that...


176 posted on 03/13/2011 11:23:32 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

OK, let me be the first to say it.

R-E-P-A-R-A-T-I-O-N-S...


177 posted on 03/13/2011 11:31:59 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (They bring a Bible to a Memorial, we bring a T Shirt - Long Legged Mac Daddy)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Guess I wasn’t the first to say it, but I did use CAPS.


178 posted on 03/13/2011 11:34:48 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (They bring a Bible to a Memorial, we bring a T Shirt - Long Legged Mac Daddy)
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To: llevrok; Publius6961
It helps that they know they can line up on a mark, and that the train operators are so skillful that the door stops exactly in front of where they're standing -- every time...

I rode the Yamate-sen and changed to the Chuo-sen at Tokyo-eki during rush hour many times. The precision of schedule and operation never ceased to amaze...

179 posted on 03/13/2011 11:39:25 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: fortheDeclaration

But they stay inside the chalked lines...


180 posted on 03/13/2011 11:42:59 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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