Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!
Every time career politicians and bureaucrats lose on an issue they manage to come up with a new consultant's report that backs their point of view.
Notice that the consultants were paid $1.3 million for these studies. Similar amounts were paid for previous consultant reports that projected lower ridership. But when politicians and bureaucrats don't like the projections they keep spending money on more studies and POOF!,like magic, each report is more favorable to their position.
Only when they get the report they like do they agree those are the real figures and they stop paying for more studies.
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To: Iron Munro
I call Barbara Streisand...........
2 posted on
03/10/2011 7:49:57 AM PST by
day10
(Integrity has no need of rules.)
To: Iron Munro
Turn the project into a private IPO and see how many investors will dig deep.
3 posted on
03/10/2011 7:50:27 AM PST by
AU72
To: Iron Munro
They just can not let it go. They should build one to the state mental institution in Chattahoochee. The Chattahoochee Choo Choo.
To: Iron Munro
High-speed trains that Gov. Rick Scott rejected would carry more passengers and operate at a greater financial surplus than projectedHorse Hockey!
6 posted on
03/10/2011 7:52:22 AM PST by
RoadKingSE
(How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash ?)
To: Iron Munro
High-speed trains that Gov. Rick Scott rejected would carry more passengers and operate at a greater financial surplus than projected in a 2009 federal application, data the state released Wednesday showed. MORE GOVERNMENT LIES
7 posted on
03/10/2011 7:52:37 AM PST by
from occupied ga
(Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
To: Iron Munro
funny how all this demand exists. it’ll continue to exist until the system becomes operational, then it will evaporate, as it always does. the models the ‘experts’ use are faulty, adn their predictions will not come true.
has there ever been a ridership prediction for any mass transit proposal that was anyway near the actual figure?
expect even more rosier predictions until they give up entirely.
8 posted on
03/10/2011 7:53:56 AM PST by
camle
(keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
To: Iron Munro
If it will run a surplus every year like they claim, then some evil capitalist would have built it long ago.
9 posted on
03/10/2011 7:57:02 AM PST by
Blood of Tyrants
(Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
To: Iron Munro
If at first you don’t succeed, inflate the numbers until you do.
10 posted on
03/10/2011 7:57:17 AM PST by
Hootowl
To: Iron Munro
Those ridership and revenue figures do not include the so-called "captive market" between Orlando International Airport, the Orange County Convention Center and Disney World, which would add another 4 million riders and $56.3 million in ticket revenue to 2016 operations. That's the one possible area that a commuter rail service could make sense with the number of visitors/tourists in the area. But, if it's a great idea, private funding should be available.
To: Iron Munro
Yup, that is why AMTRAC is making so much money - - - -
Oh wait. We have to subsidise that disaster with tax dollars.
13 posted on
03/10/2011 7:58:46 AM PST by
Arrowhead1952
(Don't let the SRM pick our candidates again.)
"With today's gas prices, a trip from Orlando to Tampa and back would use about 12 gallons of gas and cost $47.88," he said. "A roundtrip train ticket would cost as low as $30.""As low as," in other words, "at a minumum."
And you need one roundtrip ticket per person. How many people are driving from Tampa to Orlando and back with only one person in the car? How much are train tickets for your wife and three kids on your way to the Magic Kingdom? How does that compare to the price of gas even at $5 per gallon?
14 posted on
03/10/2011 7:58:46 AM PST by
mvpel
(Michael Pelletier)
To: Iron Munro
If they’re allowed to assume $7 a gallong gasoline, then I’m sure that will help their numbers, too.
Heck, why not assume the state stops issuing drivers licenses? That’ll increase ridership as well.
15 posted on
03/10/2011 7:58:59 AM PST by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
To: Iron Munro
If High speed rail would make a profit they would be people lining up to bid on the private to invest in a private company.
18 posted on
03/10/2011 8:03:17 AM PST by
ThomasThomas
(it said the speeling was OK)
To: Iron Munro
"Scott has relied on reports by the libertarian Reason Foundation, which said in January that Florida could face project overruns up to $3 billion, and a February paper by the conservative think tank Heritage Foundation that concluded Obama's high-speed rail program would provide "mediocre passenger rail service to an extremely small fraction of travelers.""Well lets see... The Libertarian group must be crazy, the conservative group must be completely nuts, but the two "independent consulting firms" are rock solid evidence of it being a highly profitable decision with no risk at all....
19 posted on
03/10/2011 8:03:45 AM PST by
Abathar
(Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
To: Iron Munro
Have everyone the believers be a cosigner on the note, as a personal obligation secured by all assets and future income. Then the privately financed train can get moving. 12 Months from signing we can start the asset auctions.
To: Iron Munro
Re: #1; It the same with Rat’s and vote recounts. Recount and recount until you get the result you want then stop. See the movie “Key Largo”.
23 posted on
03/10/2011 8:11:46 AM PST by
fella
(.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
To: Iron Munro
Its like this, the poll asks something similar to, “would you like to ride a bullet train if this state had one?”
Very few mightl answer “no”, and therefore we have this crap reported as news.
24 posted on
03/10/2011 8:17:39 AM PST by
lefty-lie-spy
(Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
To: Iron Munro
Total BS.
If these DOT individuals, this hack newspaper, this hack writer, Obama, etc., really believe this boondoggle could make money then they need to privately fund it themselves. They need to put their money where their mouth is or shut up.
Meanwhile, the Florida taxpayers shouldn't have this loser hung around their neck.
26 posted on
03/10/2011 8:18:34 AM PST by
Amagi
(ObamaCare proposed a tax on Tanning Salons. That is RACISM STRAIGHT UP!)
To: Iron Munro
The Gov. is right. Here in Tampa, we have a trolley system that for the last 5 years, is costing residents millions a year.... It doesn't make any money... But the elites had to have it. There isn't a mass transit system in the U.S. that isn't running in the red.... Look at Amtrack.
To: Iron Munro
Yup... in the real world, passenger rail needs on going subsidies. The consultants’ argument is self-serving. Let’s hope high speed rail never gets built in FL.
30 posted on
03/10/2011 8:28:06 AM PST by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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