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Physical Silver Price is Really $50 per Ounce (80% Premium on COMEX Silver Non-Delivery)
The Market Oracle ^ | Mar 6, 2011 | Chris Kitze

Posted on 03/06/2011 6:27:42 PM PST by Errant

...It was reported that Blythe offered 50 percent premium. That was not even close in our case. We got over 80 percent premium. That's right. Over $50 per contract on the condition that our group sell all our contracts...

These sets of facts from our traders lead us to believe that the paper price of silver may have a difficult time surpassing $36 because if the counterparty at the Comex is so willing to pay north of $50 to dissuade people from standing for delivery yet the paper price of silver is still under $35, then we suspect that losses triggered by derivatives is the main reason for the price suppression of silver. We can see no reason why they would not allow the paper price to go up yet are so glad to pay off the comex contracts to show the world that so few are standing for delivery. In our mind, Comex could default with if as little as 4,000 contracts stood for delivery. We are very curious to see how high the paper price of silver actually trades during this run. Posted by Louis Cypher"

It should now be obvious to all that silver is a fractional reserve system. Just like a fractional reserve bank, when there is more demand for the actual underlying good (i.e. silver or money) than there is a real physical supply for, it's called a "run on the bank". Those who get in line first, get their silver. Everyone else will end up as an "unsecured creditor", holding a worthless piece of paper when the music stops.

(Excerpt) Read more at marketoracle.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: comex; economy; investing; silver
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To: Errant

video from turd Ferguson....you know his blog? http://tfmetalsreport.blogspot.com/


61 posted on 03/06/2011 7:23:15 PM PST by dennisw ( The early bird catches the worm)
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To: djf; dennisw
I think eventually, COMEX silver pricing will become meaningless. When that happens, the price of silver will skyrocket until physical markets take control and reestablish some kind of relative value.
62 posted on 03/06/2011 7:23:41 PM PST by Errant
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

IIRC the Hunt brothers were on the other side of a deal like this and ended with more then a haircut.


63 posted on 03/06/2011 7:24:25 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: Orange1998

They claim that’s their plan. Milk COMEX/JPM until they croak.


64 posted on 03/06/2011 7:24:28 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: editor-surveyor

You actually could see $15 silver.

But you won’t see that unless you also see $30 bbl oil.

Just the way these things work...

Don’t hold your breath!!


65 posted on 03/06/2011 7:25:59 PM PST by djf (Dems and liberals: Let's redefine "marriage". We already redefined "natural born citizen".)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
I suspect this story is nothing more than a well written story to excite.

Possibly, but where there is smoke ...

Besides, there's all that newly created currency by ALL the central banks looking to trade for something real (e.g. silver, gold, commodities and so forth).

66 posted on 03/06/2011 7:26:38 PM PST by Errant
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To: SeeSac

>> “Only about 10% of the contracts are ever traded for silver. That’s it, in a nutshell.” <<

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Not sure about the 10% figure, but basically yes, and most speculators don’t have the bread to take delivery anyway, so usually they are safe.


67 posted on 03/06/2011 7:28:20 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: djf

Are you suggesting silver will go to $15?


68 posted on 03/06/2011 7:29:33 PM PST by cowtowney
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To: 4rcane
Even if that is true, why keep doing it. Thats like buying silver at $80 and selling it at $35 continuously. You know you will keep losing, so why keep doing it. Its better to simply default and pay less

Unless your losses are taken care of by several hundred billion "missing" TARP/Stimulus dollars.

69 posted on 03/06/2011 7:29:51 PM PST by Dr. Sheldon Cooper (The truth can indeed be a finger-down-the-throat for those unprepared to hear it.)
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To: SeeSac

Whose website? When?


70 posted on 03/06/2011 7:30:37 PM PST by misanthrope (Liberals just plain suck!!)
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To: dennisw
Last I read shares were 15% above premium. So lets say an oz of silver there costs you 40$ right now

Are you sure you're reading that correctly? 15% above spot is over $5 and eagles at APMEX are less than $4 over spot in quanity.

71 posted on 03/06/2011 7:32:01 PM PST by Errant
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To: DUMBGRUNT

You recall correctly.


72 posted on 03/06/2011 7:33:05 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Investors (Hedge funds) are standing for delivery or being bought off by JPM (et al) for paper money. Then, the funds buy more the next month, knowing full well they can stand for delivery or be bought off. This can not continue for many more months before JPM is broke. See Max Keiser.


73 posted on 03/06/2011 7:33:17 PM PST by cowtowney
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To: djf
to pay them 80% over the spot

So we are told ...

74 posted on 03/06/2011 7:33:24 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: Errant

I’m not sure I know who/what/where is the mechanism whereby they decide what to publish as the “spot price”.

We will probably end up seeing it as some kind of weighted average from major dealers/sellers.

Ask/Bid type averaging. But no matter what gets accepted as “official”, it would have to be based on true metal exchange, not futures or paper contracts.


75 posted on 03/06/2011 7:33:31 PM PST by djf (Dems and liberals: Let's redefine "marriage". We already redefined "natural born citizen".)
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To: editor-surveyor

It’s amazing that they can get away with it.

Personally, knowing what is going on with TARP and the QE’s and debt and the global economic situation (China’s bubble, etc.) I don’t see how silver and gold can come down much from where they are. Sure, there will be dips, but I think this is the new support where they will remain.


76 posted on 03/06/2011 7:34:27 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: djf

here is one source:

http://www.kitco.com/market/

Spot is like any other commodity. There is a market. Several sites link to it. Some are delayed a few minutes.


77 posted on 03/06/2011 7:36:41 PM PST by cowtowney
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To: Keflavik76
And I was hoping for a downward correction.

LOL, I've been waiting on same since $18 to add a bit more.

78 posted on 03/06/2011 7:36:45 PM PST by Errant
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To: Dr. Sheldon Cooper

“Unless your losses are taken care of by several hundred billion “missing” TARP/Stimulus dollars.”

This theory intrigues me. Makes some real sense.

Chinese are also relieving the markets of a bunch of physical.

With the national stockpile gone, consumption far outrunning production, and the public waking up to the whole situation, silver has a very good chance of being the investment of the century.


79 posted on 03/06/2011 7:37:44 PM PST by misanthrope (Liberals just plain suck!!)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

>> “but I think this is the new support where they will remain.” <<

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Until the soverign debt crash starts heading toward deflation :o)


80 posted on 03/06/2011 7:37:44 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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