Posted on 03/01/2011 7:53:15 PM PST by Hamilcar_Barca
Wisconsin GOP Senator Glenn Grothman chased, trapped by hecklers. Appearently police (who are siding with the unions) wouldn't let him in one entrance left him to the mob. Communism has come to Wisconsin.
At Michelle Malkin's site, I just read this...
"Breaking tonight…one of the Fleebagger AWOL Senate Democrats has returned to Wisconsin. Via Liberty Chick on Twitter: “Democratic Senator Timothy Cullen has just returned to #WI tonite. WI-14 is now WI-13.”
Yes, and, along with the fact union thugs have organized a boycott of business owners who contributed to Walker, should, IMHO, put them in violation of the Commerce Clause and freedom of speech. These are government employees who are intentionally trying to harm business, not just in Wisconsin, but across state lines. If Obama thinks he can use the Commerce Clause to force Americans to buy something, we should use it to stop government workers from meddling with actual commerce.
Even if you are not religious read 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12. That will give you a context to understand what is happening today.
I agree with you 100% when it comes to how important this fight is. It Walker fails here, he is done - and it will invite these kind of walk outs all over the US to derail the 2010 Republican election victories.
I like many of your ideas, I wish we could do what you suggest - but most simply are not options.
The court did declare jurisdiction over the Capitol Building and ordered the police to let the mobs back in. I don't like it, you don't like it, it may be wrong - but that is what happened.
There are specific rules, I think constitutional, in Wisconsin over what constitutes a vacancy. Walker can not declare them vacant and set an election. He simply doesn't have that option - at least not yet. Maybe after a substantial amount of time passes it might be something he can look at - but definitely not now.
I know the stakes are immense. I don't agree with this setting deadlines and just letting them pass and then setting new ones. Walker should NEVER have said 1500 state workers would be laid off if he wasn't going to do it.
Through his faults, he is taking on the strongest part of the Democratic Party. He will have to do more to apply pressure, but his options are very limited - especially with the police, courts, media, etc working furiously against him. It might be different if he was decisively winning public opinion - but he is not. At best polls seem mixed. You've got 14 state Senators subverting democracy and now threatening not to come back for the entire term, and there simply isn't a lot Walker can do about it other than try to win the public relations battle over the long term - and that is going to prove very difficult.
Someone posted that Walker can declare the Rat Senate seats vacant after 30 days.
Unbelievable! My heart sinks seeing these people behave like a hateful mob. “We want our democracy back” a thug yelled. I think he meant thugacracy. I don’t think most democrats know how to behave in a democracy anymore. It’s all about power for them. Heaven help Wisconsin.
Are you sure that some policeman didn’t let him in the first door he went to? I was at the Capitol last week and saw authorities from every jurisdiction known to law enforcement. I tend to doubt this was the case.
WI-14 is now WI-13
Does that mean the vote can go on?
I am heartened to see the comments on this thread.
The mainstream public and mainstream media need to focus on the possible loss of representative democracy here rather than technical aspects of “the bill”
The bottom line is that a mob has taken down the due functioning of an elected State government and capitol building. There is a lot more at stake here than just some teacher’s ability to bargain for a lifetime pension.
The gang of 14 has put this State and Country on as slippery a slope as we’ve been in a long time.
The reason the democrats (Charlie Rangle) wanted to institute the draft cause that was the button that started riots on college campus's.....and that spread to other area's....The riots at Chicago democrat convention was a pip, jars of urine and feces were thrown at cops, finally mayor daley put a stop to it by untieing the cops hands...it went on for a bout 3 days (if I remember correctly that was decades ago...
My friends brother was a chicago cop and they also had the rioters putting large spikes through tennis balls and throwing them at the "pigs". Thats where the first calling of policemen pigs came from. The marxist's of the 60's..
Like obama's friends he has at the W.H. It was the MO of all that scum...
Not sure. They just need one...can they round up the GOP’s and be ready? Does this mean the dims are caving?? Again, not sure what this could mean.
LB—the court can declare anything it wants.
All the Governor has to do is declare a state of emergency in the building, and then act.
The truth is, the judiciary has no say on the running of a legislative facility. Otherwise we don’t need a legislative branch—the judiciary can run everything.
There is such a thing as separation of powers. And the judge crossed it.
The Governor CAN tell the judge his jurisdiction is not recognized.
What is the judge going to do? Arrest the Governor? On what charge? Disobedience of a court order that is superceded by a declared state of emergency?
The judge has no jurisdiction to determine if the state of emergency is valid or not.
The Capitol was not closed, so there was no need for the judge to say anything. He overacted in a show of solidarity with the unions, you know, legislating from the bench when elections fail to do the job, a typical Dem tactic.
All I know is, if tomorrow comes and nothing changes, it is game over for Walker, for Wisconsin, and for the rest of us, because the thug tactics on display in Madison over the past 2 weeks will be amplified across the country.
Walker has never backed down before, and I am counting on him not to back down this time.
I have read on another thread that one Dem Senator has returned to Wisconsin. If so, the State Police need to escort his @ss into the chamber tomorrow morning and sit him down in his chair and end this charade.
Or it is game over.
I hope America is watching too. The REAL face of the unions and the REAL face of media corruption!
All I know is, if tomorrow comes and nothing changes, it is game over for Walker, for Wisconsin, and for the rest of us, because the thug tactics on display in Madison over the past 2 weeks will be amplified across the country.
You’re exactly right.
With funding and organization to die for!
Who prosecutes the Justice Department?
Who pursues RICO cases?
Think about it.
gg—it is like deja vu, all over again, as Yogi Berra would say.
I agree. There is no excuse for law enforcement or the judicial system letting these animals run rampant like this. Are our veterans on the side of these pigs? Why would the people of Wisconsin let their Capitol be trashed in this way?
If law enforcement can choose to behave this way, then no Republican’s life is safe in the State of Wisconsin. Now there’s a REAL shame!
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