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To: exit82
The courts have no jurisdiction over the Capitol building, its hours or how it is run. Tell the judge to F off. Tell the Capitol Police to clear the building under a direct order. If they refuse, fire them, and get the National Guard to do the job. Declare the Dem Senators seats vacant, and set an election date to fill them. If they return, bar them from the building. They have abrogated the terms of their elective office and oaths of office. Listen, the stakes are too high. This circus has gone on long enough. “We won”—f the Dems. They and their hired goons are trying to paralyze rhe State of Wisconsin. That is anarchy. To say they can do all this without consequences is to invite instability, disorder and chaos. If Governor Walker won’t or can’t the job done, then he does need to step aside. But to wring your hands in the face of anarchy is not an option. If the Dems win this one, it is open season on the whole country.

I agree with you 100% when it comes to how important this fight is. It Walker fails here, he is done - and it will invite these kind of walk outs all over the US to derail the 2010 Republican election victories.

I like many of your ideas, I wish we could do what you suggest - but most simply are not options.

The court did declare jurisdiction over the Capitol Building and ordered the police to let the mobs back in. I don't like it, you don't like it, it may be wrong - but that is what happened.

There are specific rules, I think constitutional, in Wisconsin over what constitutes a vacancy. Walker can not declare them vacant and set an election. He simply doesn't have that option - at least not yet. Maybe after a substantial amount of time passes it might be something he can look at - but definitely not now.

I know the stakes are immense. I don't agree with this setting deadlines and just letting them pass and then setting new ones. Walker should NEVER have said 1500 state workers would be laid off if he wasn't going to do it.

Through his faults, he is taking on the strongest part of the Democratic Party. He will have to do more to apply pressure, but his options are very limited - especially with the police, courts, media, etc working furiously against him. It might be different if he was decisively winning public opinion - but he is not. At best polls seem mixed. You've got 14 state Senators subverting democracy and now threatening not to come back for the entire term, and there simply isn't a lot Walker can do about it other than try to win the public relations battle over the long term - and that is going to prove very difficult.

45 posted on 03/01/2011 8:44:57 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

LB—the court can declare anything it wants.

All the Governor has to do is declare a state of emergency in the building, and then act.

The truth is, the judiciary has no say on the running of a legislative facility. Otherwise we don’t need a legislative branch—the judiciary can run everything.

There is such a thing as separation of powers. And the judge crossed it.

The Governor CAN tell the judge his jurisdiction is not recognized.

What is the judge going to do? Arrest the Governor? On what charge? Disobedience of a court order that is superceded by a declared state of emergency?

The judge has no jurisdiction to determine if the state of emergency is valid or not.

The Capitol was not closed, so there was no need for the judge to say anything. He overacted in a show of solidarity with the unions, you know, legislating from the bench when elections fail to do the job, a typical Dem tactic.

All I know is, if tomorrow comes and nothing changes, it is game over for Walker, for Wisconsin, and for the rest of us, because the thug tactics on display in Madison over the past 2 weeks will be amplified across the country.

Walker has never backed down before, and I am counting on him not to back down this time.

I have read on another thread that one Dem Senator has returned to Wisconsin. If so, the State Police need to escort his @ss into the chamber tomorrow morning and sit him down in his chair and end this charade.

Or it is game over.


55 posted on 03/01/2011 8:59:26 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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