Posted on 02/16/2011 7:38:10 AM PST by Rational Thought
http://openjurist.org/231/us/9/george-luria-v-united-states
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Citizenship is membership in a political society, and implies a duty of allegiance on the part of the member and a duty of protection on the part of the society. These are reciprocal obligations, one being a compensation for the other. Under our Constitution, a naturalized citizen stands on an equal footing with the native citizen in all respects, save that of eligibility to the Presidency. Minor v. Happersett, 21 Wall. 162, 165, 22 L. ed. 627; Elk v. Wilkins, 112 U. S. 94, 101, 28 L. ed. 643, 645, 5 Sup. Ct. Rep. 41; Osborn v. Bank of United States, 9 Wheat. 738, 827, 6 L. ed. 204, 225. Turning to the naturalization laws preceding the act of 1906, being those under which Luria obtained his certificate, we find that they required, first, that the alien, after coming to this country, should declare on oath, before a court or its clerk, that it was bona fide his intention to become a citizen of the United States, and to renounce forever all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign sovereignty; second, that at least two years should elapse between the making of that declaration and his application for admission to citizenship; third, that as a condition to his admission the court should be satisfied, through the testimony of citizens, that he had resided within the United States five years at least, and that during that time he had behaved as a man of good moral character, attached to the principles of the Constitution of the United States, and well disposed to the good order and happiness of the same; and, fourth, that at the time of his admission he should declare on oath that he would support the Constitution of the United States, and that he absolutely and entirely renounced and abjured all allegiance and fidelity to every foreign sovereignty...”
If those people were in their 40's at the time of his birth, they'd be over 90 by now, which given life expectancy in the 1960's, gives better than even odds they're dead.
You say you have proof of this, where is it?
Awesome response! Kudos and Shekoyach!
Thank you Captain Obvious. So ***everyone*** connected with Soetoro/Obama’s birth, with the exception of one (1) of SAD’s friends in Seattle, is dead. Well yes, that would explain why no one remembers him from childhood on. Remarkable how, with a few lines, you’ve solved so many problems.
Btw, why do all your comments on Eligibility threads run defense for Obama’s story? Are you emotionally invested in showing that Obama is honest and straightforward, as opposed to the pathological liar most conservatives consider him to be?
And everybody knows that the government never ever lies.Not
Which hospital?
Which doctor?
Can’t have been that many OB/GYN’s working at those hospitals. Interracial birth was very rare at the time and the doctor would remember. Nurses?
MSM has looked the other way while our POTUS doesn’t fulfill the basic legal requirements for the office.
And everybody knows that the government never ever lies.Not
“You know, during the campaign of 2008, I was actually in the mainland campaigning for Sen. McCain. This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it’s one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. And so I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact. And yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue. And I think it’s, again, a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this. ... It’s been established. He was born here.”—[Former]Governor Linda Lingle (R-HI)
Both Dr. Fukino and Governor Lingle can be subpoenaed to testify under oath before a civil or criminal trial or before an investigative committee of Congress at any time.
Thus far, no one has been interested in putting either lady under oath.
No, no, no, no no.
No!
That’s NOT what she said. She was more careful with her words than that, and FAR MORE careful with her words under oath. The upshot is we have not idea what she said she saw, or even that what she said meant she saw anything at all!
Well, yes, to clarify the words of the trying-to-be-legally-honest while being dishonest is why why have CROSS-EXAMINATIONS. Fukino should get over to Illinois, Philly or New York today and find a good defense lawyer pronto. The advice she has been given won’t protect her from serious jail time at this rate. JMO.
Any court or any Congressional investigative committee can call her to testify under oath and respond to questions if there are lingering questions as to her meanings. Thus far, no court and no congressional committee has called her.
Big F’n deal its been discussed at length that the media and others are trying to mock those who want the truth. Those in a position to examine the facts haven’t they are apparently afraid of being called names, or losing their cushy jobs in a terrible econemy. I don’t see you demanding your reps investigate the situation.
You don’t want the truth you continue to post here and try to decieve people. WHY? Apparently you are afraid of the truth or else you would be demanding proof to shut up the so called birtheres...
Any court or any Congressional investigative committee can call her to testify under oath and respond to questions if there are lingering questions as to her meanings. Thus far, no court and no congressional committee has called her.
Big F’n deal its been discussed at length that the media and others are trying to mock those who want the truth. Those in a position to examine the facts haven’t they are apparently afraid of being called names, or losing their cushy jobs in a terrible econemy. I don’t see you demanding your reps investigate the situation.
You don’t want the truth you continue to post here and try to decieve people. WHY? Apparently you are afraid of the truth or else you would be demanding proof to shut up the so called birtheres...
Well, yes, to clarify the words of the trying-to-be-legally-honest while being dishonest is why why have CROSS-EXAMINATIONS. Fukino should get over to Illinois, Philly or New York today and find a good defense lawyer pronto. The advice she has been given won’t protect her from serious jail time at this rate. JMO.
There was report that obama’s mother met up with some friends on a stopover at an island on a return trip from Kenya, she had a black baby with her.. She was supposed to be on her way to Washington state. There is a chance that never even arrived in Hawaii until he was 4-6 years lid. The women in question now refuse to any any questions,wised up or bought off?
these liberal thinkers would assume that Major Hasan is still the “alleged” shooter of 13 dead soldiers at Ft Hood
but a paid newspaper birth announcement placed by parties unknown and a certificate issued based on statements by parties unknown is proof that obama was born in Hawaii
there is no newspaper birth announcement for the Nordyke twins, is there????
Agree and additional information not on the certification.If it isn’t a fake certificate what is it he wants to hide?.
The one thing that keeps coming back to me is the second modified certificate of candidacy issued by the DNC that omitted the language about eligibility. While many can ignore that , it still bugs me. What could possibly be the reason to omit that statement which has always been issued before?
Which hospital?
Which doctor?
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Maybe this one...
http://www.peacearchhospital.com/
Stanley Ann Dunham’s Aunt apparently lived across the border in Blaine, Washington at one time.
http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2011/02/11/keepin-em-guessing/#comments
Unless Issa takes up the issue very, very soon we will not be able to get rid of Obama before the 2012 election just because of the time involved in doing the investigations and prosecuting a case.
But if we can get legislation in just one state that grants legal standing to a registered voter who challenges in court a candidate’s eligibility, Soros may decide Obama dare not risk it. If a person had legal standing they could get discovery of all the records necessary to show whether or not there are genuine records that prove Obama was born here, is a US citizen even now, and was born to 2 US citizens.
Tampering with records could be discovered and presented to the court. We already know his passport file was illegally accessed 3 different times and the “investigation” of it apparently (from what I can find) never bothered to check whether the records had been ALTERED. But an audit of the record would show that, and if just one person can get discovery this whole mess could be revealed - which would implicate a LOT of people. You’d have Pelosi BEGGING Obama not to run, for instance, because she doesn’t want her perjury discovered.
Even in states where the legislature and/or governor can’t be trusted to pass legislation - for instance, if the Soros thugs make offers they can’t refuse - the thugs can’t threaten EVERYBODY, and ballot initiatives can allow the PEOPLE to pass an initiative giving any registered voter legal standing to challenge the eligibility of any candidate whose name is printed on their ballot - including the right to subpoena any and all records and information necessary to determine eligibility.
The whole reason this issue has been able to go the way it has is because the PEOPLE have no power to hold government bureaucrats accountable to the law. Take away the ability of the courts and the ruling class to ignore and ridicule the PEOPLE in a legal sense, and you open up a truly accountable situation where laws actually mean something. Take off the handcuffs of the people and government will begin to have a healthy fear of what will happen when they screw us time and again.
There are so many pluses to confronting this particular issue I don’t even know where to begin. This, of all issues, is the one where the entire system wanted to blow off the people and the rule of law. If we can hold the line on this issue, they will know their absolute power is broken. Their ridicule, their corruption, their refusal to listen.... nothing will defeat the will of the American people. They didn’t hear us in November because once the election is over they can screw us all they want, in the order of things now, since we have no power to prosecute or challenge them between elections. If we can make the law stick on this issue it will change that; they will no longer be untouchable.
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