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At your second link, on 2/13/11, commenter SapphireSunday noted that Stanley Ann had a paternal half-aunt living in Canada in the late 1950s and possibly into the 1960s - named Eleanor Belle Dunham Berkebile; husband in the Air Force, stationed in Canada. Commenter kj replied with a findagrave.com link, which link provided the info that Aunt Eleanor had lived in Washington state prior to her six months' residence in Colorado, before her 2003 death. Being a woman who was having babies during the era of Obama's birth - knowing first hand what the normal proceedures were relating to being close to due-date, and being post-partum - I've not believed Stanley Ann and her newborn were permitted to fly from Hawaii to Seattle, where her presence was confirmed by a friend she visited. Since the fake COLB appeared, I've been pretty much convinced Obie was born somewhere in the Seattle area. So - after many hours of research on Sunday, the following info has pretty much convinced me there was no Hawaiian birth for Obie, and that most likely Grandma provided the verbal song-and-dance-birth-registration. This is basically a repost of my comment at your link: Re: Eleanor Belle Dunham Berkebile and Ralph L. Berkebile: Stanley Armour Dunham's (Obama's 'Gramps') mother died when he was 8 years old. His father married again, and Eleanor was born in 1932 of that marriage - so she was "Gramps'" half-sister. She married Ralph L. Berkebile [aka 'Richard']. He was an Airman 2nd Class stationed with the Air Force in Newfoundland when their twin sons born Jan. 5, 1959 died within a week of their [premature] birth: http/;//www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSvpid=8782453&GRid=34580925& At http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2008/05/a-new-problem-f.html there is an article about Obama's 'enhancement' story of his grandfather's WWII service, re: liberating a concentration camp. Other military relatives are mentioned in the article - in particular this reference to a veteran's genealogy web site item: "That tree also names includes (sic) two sisters; Eleanor (m. Ralph L.Berkebile - only one in the database enlisted in 1945 in AK)..." So we can piece together that in 1945 Stanley ann's Aunt Eleanor and Uncle Ralph Berkebile lived in Alaska; in 1959 he was stationed/they lived in Newfoundland. Eleanor's obit at http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=34618044 gives her death as Dec. 21, 2003 at Castle Rock, and states she had moved there 6 months previously from Washington State. It also lists some survivors: children Teresea Berkebile, Ralph D. Berkebile and his wife Jaque, and Lorrie A. Berkebile - she of Alaska. Additionally, she is identified as the daughter of Ralph Waldo [Emerson] Dunham - Stanley Ann's grandfather, and Barry Obama's great-grandfather. At http://radaris.com/p/Eleanor/Berkebile ["Find public records at the number 1 people search site!"], known relatives for one Eleanor Berkebile include Lorrie Ann Berkebile, Ralph D. Berkebile, Teresa Marie Berkebile, and Jaque E. Berkebile. So the identity of this listed person is confirmed to be Stanley Ann Dunham Obama's paternal aunt. Also at the above 'radaris.com...' entry is a list of known addresses for Eleanor Belle Dunham Berkebile. There are no reference dates. We know she started her life in Kansas - not listed - so it's apparently 'as an adult' addresses: Maumelle, AR [ where her sister lives], Castle Rock, CO [where she was in a nursing care home when she died]. The interesting sddresses are Bellingham, Washington and Blaine, Washington. Since we know Eleanor had moved to Castle Rock, CO 6 months prior to her 2003 death, it does seem apparent that Eleanor and Ralph stayed in the Pacific Northwest after their Air Force stint was over. All things considered, it's just about impossible to believe anything other than that the pregnant [and unmarried] Stanley Ann was shipped off post-hates to her father's sister - and that Aunt Eleanor's address at the time was Blaine, Washington. The AMAZING thing - the OMG! thing - of this likliest scenario is that the northern boundary line of Blaine, WA is also the southern boundary line of White Rock, Surrey, British Columbia, Canada. They are essentially the same city - like Minneapolis-St.Paul. The 'same city' - in different countries. In 1961 Blaine, WA apparently had no hospital. White Rock, BC, Canada, however, had a hospital - with a meternity ward which opened in 1960: http://www.national post.com/Peace+Arch+Hospital+maternity+ward+expands/4221327/story.html Barry won't/can't produce his long form hospital birth certificate. On which side of that boundary line between Washington and Canada is it most probable he was born? And three weeks later, Stanley Ann hopped on down to Seattle to set up residence and start classes - and visits with her high school friends.