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a POS electric car for about $10k less
Posted on 02/14/2011 8:28:45 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
Actually, the Lithium Ion batteries they are using now are not highly explosive.
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a POS electric car for about $10k less
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Force AlGore to have this as his only automobile. Gore is so fat these days I wonder if he can fit into one
My first car was a 1968 Chevy Impala. I paid $500 for it in 1974. Drove it everywhere for four years and kept it in great shape. Then, I got an overseas assignment and sold it to my kid brother. It was ready for the junkyard six months later. You look at Impalas today and they almost fit under the hoods of the originals. I beleive tha Catalina was Pontiac's equivalent. Mine was just a slightly lighter shade of blue. I had a 327 engine in mine. What did you have in yours?
[Didn’t dig any further, as I thought it got the message across.]
You did and it was an excellent analogy, you don’t have to defend it to some nit picker.
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Depends. If the plant is nuclear (there's still 104 nuclear plants operating in the U.S.) or hydro, then there is no fossil fuel conversion.
And even if the plant is coal, then you are at least using our fossil fuels instead of imported fossil fuels.
Thanks for the link. And yeah, the parasitic losses thing has been on my radar since I was in high school (early 70’s). I remember getting an electric remote control car in the mid 70’s that did 30 mph. I was amazed at how reliable and trouble free it was compared to the fuel powered RC cars. And thee torque was impressinve.
I never thought about it before your post, but the engine is not the only thing that can be simplified by going electric. Maybe it will just be the last. Perhaps cars could someday be like diesel-electric trains. The IC engine only supplies power to everything else, including the motor that drives the wheels.
That's if you don't consider 14 mpg to be terrible gas mileage...
“If work is 30 minutes away or less - an electric car would make sense. Any longer than that, forget it.”
Your reasoning is flawed. First, traffic patterns may make your commute longer on days with bad weather and accidents. You may deplete the charge in these situations. Second and more important, people use cars for more than just work transportation. Children need transportation to activities such as sports. You may to take a vacation or travel to longer destinations for entertainment. Buying an EV sharply limits your transportation flexibility. If you do not have kids, vacation plans, a very stable work commute, and lots of flexibility to limit your EV usage to short commutes, it is an excellent vehicle if you do not mind paying a luxury car price. Do not forget about the battery replacement cost, reduced battery ability in cold weather, battery drain from non essential driving comfort (heat, AC, radio, ...), long charging times, and blackouts caused by high capacity EV battery charging.
That’s what frustrates me about these greenie weenies. You get ecomentalists like Ozero and his liberal ilk trying to drag people into useless electric cars, or wind-power for electricity (ask Texas how well that worked out recently), or banning incandescent lightbulbs. You don’t hear about them accepting that we WILL be dependent on fossil fuels for the near term and there’s no way around that!
We need to drill, drill, drill, dig, dig, dig. There’s nothing wrong with looking 20 or 30 or 40 years down the road at things like fuel cells or electric cars, but in the meantime, we need to look at what we can do NOW to make fossil fuel use more efficient, because they aren’t going anywhere in most of our lifetimes. For example, they have diesel cars in Europe that can get 60-70 mpg while still offering room for four or five and reasonable performance. Why don’t we get those here? A combination of ecoweenies going “DIESEL COOTIES! EEWWW!!” and the Big Three lobbying Congress to keep them out. Those obstacles need to be removed so we can get things like that over here. They may sell, they may not, but at least let them compete in the market.
Get the government out of the way and encourage free-market innovation, and watch what happens.
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Nissan, make like a tree and Leaf.
What about the noise? Can Bambi hear you coming? Can Joe the Jogger hear you coming? Front end repairs are going to be expensive...
Maybe, if we’re good and buy these death traps in large enough quantities, Steven Greer will release the ‘free energy from zero point field’ technology running the UFOs he claims are just all over the place on Earth, just hiding in another dimension. Just never know if we’re being good enough don’tchaknow. But I’m sure Steve will tell us, when George instructs him to.
The leftists either want you to move near where you work, cost be damned, or else lose your job.
They would rather have the former because they want you tied to an urban setting so they can better control you and also if you still have a job they can tax you so they don't have to work.
Thanks for this eye opening article. We own a 2007 Nissan Versa which we like a lot, and I always wondered if their Leaf would be any good. Now I don’t have to wonder any more.
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