The Collapse of Arab Civilization?

American Thinker ^ | February 13, 2011 | Michael Fraley

[kingattax]

Five years ago, Lt. Col James G. Lacey published the article "The Impending Collapse of Arab Civilization" in The Naval Institute: Proceedings." He disputed the conclusions of two books which have particularly influenced recent foreign policy and grand strategy: The Crisis of Islam: Holy War and Unholy Terror, by Bernard Lewis, and The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order by Samuel P. Huntington.

In his article, he stated:

A more accurate understanding of events leads to the conclusion that Arab, not Muslim, civilization is in a state of collapse, and it just happens that most Arabs are Muslims. In this regard, the fall of the Western Roman Empire was a collapse of Western Europe and not a crisis of Christianity.

His thesis was that while Islam itself continues to grow and thrive around the world (and indeed, is continuing to make swift inroads into Western states), it has been specifically in the Arab world where one has seen the turmoil of civilization in decay.

[Red Badger]

Oxymoron......

[headsonpikes]

How does one collapse a root-cellar?

I suppose neglect causes it to slough in on itself - like a grave.

[Psalm 144]

For later

[drbuzzard]

Yeah, I really don’t grasp the concept of a sudden collapse of Arab civilization. The Turks conquered them a long time ago, and then that Caliphate was taken out in the aftermath of WW I.

What passes for civilization in that part of the world is strong man rule, irrationality, a loony politically bent religion, and some western trappings when convenient.

To be quite honest, other than the fact that it can get worse (Iran, Hamas), there’s not a heck of a lot of loss to the world in the disappearance of said ‘culture’.

[Brilliant]

They were civilized? Who knew?

[Salvey]

Many years ago (25? 30? more?) the NY Times magazine section ran a cover article on the peculiarities of “the arab mind” and, as I recall, at least implied what Lacey had concluded. Try as I might (including phoning the Times), I’ve been unable to track down that article. Anyone here know what I’m talking about, and if so, can you point me in the right direction?

[Dr. Ursus]

Plus,they never created anything on their own.

[cripplecreek]

Kin you skin muzz?

[Leftism is Mentally Deranged]

There are two words in that headline that don’t belong together.

[drbuzzard]

Well if you go back far enough you might find something, but it has been centuries.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

Arab, as in secular totalitarian rule, and Muslim, as in Islamo/fascism, I agree. The Caliphate is coming back to be reformed under the 12th Imam and the Mahdi.

Also, as soon as Iran announces that it has a working war head and a delivery system, I agree.

[SonOfDarkSkies]

And so the cancer of Islam devours another culture, leaving the so-called Arab world in its wake (like a dessicated victim of a vampire).

BTW, there are some excellent comments at source, the very best of which seems to be this one...

Posted by: Morton Doodslag

Feb 13, 02:10 AM

Islam is the crystallization of the brutal, primitive, rigid Arab "civilization." As such, the rise of so-called "radical Islam" does not represent the collapse of Arab civilization, but it's grotesque apotheosis. Arabs have inflicted their monstrous tribal "civilization" on countless superior civilizations over 14 centuries, and the Arabs have looted, defiled, and left desiccated wastelands in their wake. Byzantium, Egypt, Persia, Spain, Greece, and Hindu and Buddhist India are only a few magnificent civilizations which Arab Muslims have raped and left for dead. Few ever reclaimed themselves after the Arabs raped them, but Spain and Greece did successfully expel the rapists from their midst.

It is silly to think, however, that the inflamed cauldron of hatred we see spewing from the Arab world is new. It harkens back to the first days of the cancer of Islam. It descended on an unsuspecting world and raged across a huge arc, brutally murdering and terrorizing it's way to riches, conquest, and genocide. Islam appeared to flourish for many centuries as it parasitized the wealth of those it conquered until the loot was consumed. That initial frenzy of Islamic gluttony ended in the collapse of the Ottoman Empire nearly a century ago, and Arab "civilization", a.k.a. Islam was slated for the slag heap of history. But then oil was discovered and trillions flowed, unearned, into the bottomless maw of Islam -- the monster was revived again.

What we are witnessing is the inevitable result of allowing the Arab beast to survive it's well deserved annihilation. We allowed the slouching beast to feed on unprecedented wealth, and now intellectuals and politicians express wonder and dismay as Islam resumes its rape and pillaging. We are simply watching a very old conflagration begin to burn anew, but the flame is very old indeed.

[null and void]

They have a civilization?

Who knew?

[tractorman]

Islam is just another sly distraction by the great deceiver.

[Dr. Ursus]

First,I didn’t give you credit for a excellent post.Even
the credit for math was misplaced.They stole it from India.

[hosepipe]

Arab Civilization has always been Mob Rule.. by mobsters..
Democracy is the same..

No democracy ever existed that was democratic.. NONE..
Sharia Law IS democracy.. Mob Rule by an elite of mobsters..

The mobsters change and the name of the MOB changes.. but its still MOb Rule..

Thats WHY?... America is a Republic.. with 50 democracys..
States are Mob territory's.. as are countys and citys..

[drbuzzard]

There is a case to be made about Algebra originating in the Arab world, but it is also worth noting that it was from a period before Islam formally rejected rational thought.

[rbg81]

Exactly. If Arab “civilization” collapsed, who would notice? I guess they’d just look more like Somalia than they already do.

[SunkenCiv]

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