CPAC fissure over gays deepens; GOProud called incompatible

The Washington Times ^ | 2/8/2011 | Stephen Dinan

[Servant of the Cross]

Deepening a rift ahead of the largest annual gathering of conservative activists in Washington this week, some of the movement’s top leaders have circulated a private memo urging that conservatism’s founding principles be recast to exclude gay rights groups from the Reagan coalition of economic, defense and social conservatives.

The memo, obtained by The Washington Times, was signed by about two dozen leaders, and was released just as the Conservative Political Action Conference is set to begin its most contentious session in years, riven with divisions over a gay rights Republican group that is helping sponsor the conference and the social conservatives who are trying to keep it out.

[Servant of the Cross]

It seems to be working.

If it gets sympathy from even a few FR posters, yea it's definitely working 'out there'.

[matginzac]

Hear hear!
I was going to post something similar but you said it better...cheers!

[DJ MacWoW]

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There is information in the thread about who runs CPAC and who they have ties to and it isn't Conservatives.

[M. Dodge Thomas]

Many social conservatives have two main goals: opposition to abortion, and opposition to gay marriage and sometimes to “civil-union” granting similar rights.

One of these goals - abortion restriction - is holding its on or even increasing in strength among people under 30.

The other - opposition to homosexual marital rights or its equivalents - is opposed by a majority of the same people, and the younger the voters, the the stronger opposition.

So the question is: “If you oppose abortion, is it worth diluting or losing political support for conservative opinions and candidates among younger voters on abortion restriction, in to fight a clearly losing battle on “gay marriage”.

IMO, the answer should be obvious.

[DJ MacWoW]

But I can tolerate the “gay” GOP orgs as long as they aren’t pushing their agenda on the GOP platform or legislative agenda.

GOProud isn't Conservative. They are infiltrators.

Christopher Barron, GOProud Chairman of the Board: "We are a gay organization, we only work on gay issues, we have never claimed otherwise. My God people." Aug 4, 2010; 4:04pm

[Melchior]

The homosexual community will try to do to the Conservative movement what it did to the mainline Protestant churches.

[SharpRightTurn]

This is a never ending struggle in which homosexuals and lesbians insist that everyone else accept their perversions as O.K.

We can’t give into acceptance of degeneracy to make someone feel good about themselves. It will destroy our country.

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[ishmac]

I am beginning to think it is a waste of time to talk about the "conservative movement." I prefer nowadays to speak of the "country class." The Tea Party is where the mojo is these days.

All political groupings have a shelf-life. The "conservative movement" promoted by the old National Review and its coterie of thinkers was one the most beneficial and inspiring influences on our national life. I will be forever grateful for the writings of William F Buckely et al, but each generation has it's own challenges. Buckley's generation had to take on the Soviets. Our generation has to fight sth wholly different: the culture/religious wars. The financial profligacy of recent decades is now also become an existential threat. Organizations that can't adapt (or worse, that sign up for the other side), should be shunned.

[NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN]

No. It should be that the days of Keene and Norquist are numbered!

[Maelstorm]

GoProud is hostile to the idea of freewill. If they proved themselves truly unique in accepting the reality of exgays & the right of those with unwanted desires to receive treatment and rejected the liberal activism and false comparison of “gay rights” to civil rights then they wouldnt be so bad but they support the same hostility that currently gets students who dont conform to the gay rights activism kicked out of programs that would allow them to become mental health professionals etc. GoProud until it show they are really unique is just the same old liberal activism trying to trojan horse Republicans. A gay conservative would never be a gay activist and would be able to acknowledge the flaw in their own condition as well as respect those who disagree with their condition whether they desire to change or not. Gayness for a gay conservative wouldnt be defined by liberal ideas of in your face activism.

[Maelstorm]

GoProud is hostile to the idea of freewill. If they proved themselves truly unique in accepting the reality of exgays & the right of those with unwanted desires to receive treatment and rejected the liberal activism and false comparison of “gay rights” to civil rights then they wouldnt be so bad but they support the same hostility that currently gets students who dont conform to the gay rights activism kicked out of programs that would allow them to become mental health professionals etc. GoProud until it show they are really unique is just the same old liberal activism trying to trojan horse Republicans. A gay conservative would never be a gay activist and would be able to acknowledge the flaw in their own condition as well as respect those who disagree with their condition whether they desire to change or not. Gayness for a gay conservative wouldnt be defined by liberal ideas of in your face activism.

[massmike]

I can’t believe these RINOs are willing to alienate millions of Christian conservatives in order to kiss up to a handful of homos and their supporters all in an attempt to make the world like them
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These RINO’S should give Charlie Baker and Richard Tisei a call and find out how kissing-up to the gay community works out for the GOP!

Mass GOP convention nominates most extreme pro-gay Governor & Lt. Governor candidates in history
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/10b/gop_convention/index.html

Mass. GOP Lt. Governor candidate Tisei gives interview to homosexual magazine — pushing gay agenda
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/govt10/election10/tisei_spirit_mag/index.html

GOP Candidate for Governor Charlie Baker marches with hateful anti-family homosexual activist leaders in Gay Pride parade
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/10c/pride_week/baker.html

Mass. Republicans lose ALL statewide & Congressional races
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/govt10/election10/general/results_statewide.html

[ViLaLuz]

“Gay” marriage, “gay” conservatives, “gay” Christians, etc. etc. All pretend, all counterfeit, all a huge whopping lie.

[bert]

All queer.

Gay is but PC speak for queer

[Neoliberalnot]

gopproud is about as compatible, and actually quite similar, to a homo child molestor at a boy scout jamboree.

[Neoliberalnot]

gopproud is about as compatible, and actually quite similar, to a homo child molestor at a boy scout jamboree.

[aimhigh]

So the question is: “If you oppose abortion, is it worth diluting or losing political support for conservative opinions and candidates among younger voters on abortion restriction, in to fight a clearly losing battle on “gay marriage”.

Spoken like a true liberal. Just a little compromise here and a little there. . . .

Public votes AGAINST gay marriage are always in the majority.

[Servant of the Cross]

Nope. Wrong question. These two are interrelated and connected 'at the hip'. Inseparable. False choice to suggest that one has to go due to the sensibilities of today's brainwashed youth from government schools. The youth of today who 'get' abortion also 'get' homosexual marriage. Both are wrong and antithetical to our human biology and nature. It would be so wrong to cave on fundamental truths about God's creation and design in order to pander to current culture in order to gain 'youth voters'.

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[max americana]

>Conservative homosexuals?
Really?<

Yup. Like calling one self’s “Christian child-molester”. The 2 terms will never mix.

One thing I have learned here in Hollywood that makes people look at me strange is that the most intolerant people I have witnessed are gays-homosexuals-fags. Absolutely tribal and enclosed.