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Faceoff! States tell feds to back down
World Net Daily ^ | 01-24-11 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 01/24/2011 11:08:57 AM PST by RepublicnotaDemocracy

What if Washington made a law and nobody paid attention? Or even more significantly, what if states specifically repudiated it and threatened to prosecute those enforcing it?

The questions no longer are rhetorical but a real option as eight states consider a blanket nullification of the Obamacare nationalization of health-care decision-making advances in their legislatures.

"Thomas Jefferson advised, 'Whensoever the general government assumes undelegated powers ... a nullification of the act is the rightful remedy,'" states the Tenth Amendment Center, which advocates a return to the constitutionally delegated powers for the federal government.

"When states pass laws to reject and nullify unconstitutional federal 'laws,' regulations and mandates – it's not rebellion ... it's duty," the organization states.

States already have been moving forward aggressively on several issues, with eight approving firearms freedom acts that reject some federal gun laws, 15 actively defying Washington on cannabis laws and seven passing acts that reject health-care mandates.

Now, however, they are moving a step beyond, according to center founder Michael Boldin.

He told WND today that seven states have introduced acts to nullify the federal health-care reform – including New Hampshire, Maine, Montana, Oregon, Nebraska, Texas and Wyoming. A similar proposal is expected to be filed in Idaho within a matter of days.

It's another, and very important, field on which states can battle federal demands of their citizens, he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; braking; climatechange; globalwarminghoax; nullification; obamacare; statesrights
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1 posted on 01/24/2011 11:09:02 AM PST by RepublicnotaDemocracy
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To: RepublicnotaDemocracy

This is already Breaking News here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2662195/posts

Is the WND take on it also Breaking News?


2 posted on 01/24/2011 11:16:20 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (Capitol Hill operator 866-727-4894 toll free. Just say which Representative/Senator you want to spea)
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To: RepublicnotaDemocracy; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; tubebender; ...
Good.

let's include the acts by the EPA to enforce CO2 limits on power companies....

3 posted on 01/24/2011 11:18:43 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: RepublicnotaDemocracy

Refusing to have state offices and courts participate in the implementation of Obamacare is one thing. Punishing private companies that do the paperwork, pay the taxes, and buy the insurance is another. Corporations are not going to defy the federal government unless they expect the consequences to be less for defiance than for compliance. Until the states are willing to pit one set of bureaucrats, LEO’s, and courts against another these “nullifications” are meaningless.


4 posted on 01/24/2011 11:24:43 AM PST by SeeSharp
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To: RepublicnotaDemocracy

If large cities and states can refuse to enforce Federal Immigration laws - totally refuse to turn over suspected illegal aliens, then a state can refuse to abide by or enforce any Federal law.


5 posted on 01/24/2011 11:25:34 AM PST by ICCtheWay
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

Refudiate Obamacare!


6 posted on 01/24/2011 11:26:50 AM PST by AU72
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To: RepublicnotaDemocracy
This has happened several times before. All the way from the Whiskey Rebellion to the school board desegregation in Little Rock, Arkansas. In each and every case the feds have sent in the troops. When Washington and Eisenhower did it the states backed down without a shot being fired. When Lincoln did it the states fought and close the three quarters of a million people died and half the country was lain waste.

We are playing a dangerous game of poker with nullification. Everyone needs to know what the stakes are and know what they are going to do if Obama goes all in. And the best way to get a lot of people dead is to let the other guy think even for a second that we are bluffing on a pair of deuces.
7 posted on 01/24/2011 11:29:04 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: SeeSharp

Correct...when the feds swoop in to arrest those abiding by state laws but refusing to obide by illegal federal laws, unless the state police are there on the spot to not only free the illegally arrested citizen, but to arrest the officers from the feds engaged in the illegal arrest and detention of said citizen, nothing will happen, nothing will change...vote for me for governor, and this will happen, I do solemnly swear


8 posted on 01/24/2011 11:29:15 AM PST by joe fonebone (The House has oversight of the Judiciary...why are the rogue judges not being impeached?)
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To: FReepers

Defeat OBAMA Care. Donate to Free Republic!


9 posted on 01/24/2011 11:30:08 AM PST by RedMDer (restoration of our honor, dignity, and freedoms will save America. - Sarah Palin)
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To: ICCtheWay
If large cities and states can refuse to enforce Federal Immigration laws

They are getting away with that only because the Federal government is also refusing to enforce the immigration laws. It'll be different with the communist holy grail of socialized medicine.

10 posted on 01/24/2011 11:34:47 AM PST by SeeSharp
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To: GonzoGOP
In each and every case the feds have sent in the troops.

They're pushing their luck. People are fed up with this crap.

11 posted on 01/24/2011 11:38:53 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: RepublicnotaDemocracy
"Thomas Jefferson advised, 'Whensoever the general government assumes undelegated powers ... a nullification of the act is the rightful remedy,'" states the Tenth Amendment Center, which advocates a return to the constitutionally delegated powers for the federal government.

Jefferson's Republic ended with the 14th Amendment. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out.

12 posted on 01/24/2011 11:42:55 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Carry_Okie

The states would have a greater ability to insist on their Constitutional rights, if they managed their own affairs more responsibly. In both Canada and the US (both federal sytems with state/provincial and federal levels of government) the federal governments have been able to usurp power by bribing states/provinces into ceding control over matters of state/provincial jurisdiction. The feds know that many state governments will sell these Constitutional rights in exchange for federal grants. All we have to do is remember how the states clamoured for Obama’s bailout money.


13 posted on 01/24/2011 11:53:49 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Couldn’t agree more


14 posted on 01/24/2011 12:01:31 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (EPA will ruin your life)
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To: GonzoGOP

This has happened several times before. All the way from the Whiskey Rebellion to the school board desegregation in Little Rock, Arkansas. In each and every case the feds have sent in the troops. When Washington and Eisenhower did it the states backed down without a shot being fired. When Lincoln did it the states fought and close the three quarters of a million people died and half the country was lain waste.

We are playing a dangerous game of poker with nullification. Everyone needs to know what the stakes are and know what they are going to do if Obama goes all in. And the best way to get a lot of people dead is to let the other guy think even for a second that we are bluffing on a pair of deuces.


England thought the Colonies were bluffing too. They sent in troops. Didn’t work out so good for the tyrants in that instance.

You’re correct of course. Everyone had better understand EXACTLY what’s at stake. But if we live in a REPUBLIC, then let’s be a Republic — and if we live in a DICTATORSHIP, let’s KNOW IT NOW.

Nullification is a practice whose time has come again. It must, if the Republic is to be saved. If there is no Republic, then let us accept our fate as serfs in a new world order, or begin a fight to the death for the Liberty we’ve lost. Better to know, than not to know....And I think we hold a bit more than a paid of deuces — don’t you?


15 posted on 01/24/2011 12:06:05 PM PST by patriot preacher
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To: GonzoGOP

This has happened several times before. All the way from the Whiskey Rebellion to the school board desegregation in Little Rock, Arkansas. In each and every case the feds have sent in the troops. When Washington and Eisenhower did it the states backed down without a shot being fired. When Lincoln did it the states fought and close the three quarters of a million people died and half the country was lain waste.

We are playing a dangerous game of poker with nullification. Everyone needs to know what the stakes are and know what they are going to do if Obama goes all in. And the best way to get a lot of people dead is to let the other guy think even for a second that we are bluffing on a pair of deuces.


England thought the Colonies were bluffing too. They sent in troops. Didn’t work out so good for the tyrants in that instance.

You’re correct of course. Everyone had better understand EXACTLY what’s at stake. But if we live in a REPUBLIC, then let’s be a Republic — and if we live in a DICTATORSHIP, let’s KNOW IT NOW.

Nullification is a practice whose time has come again. It must, if the Republic is to be saved. If there is no Republic, then let us accept our fate as serfs in a new world order, or begin a fight to the death for the Liberty we’ve lost. Better to know, than not to know....And I think we hold a bit more than a paid of deuces — don’t you?


16 posted on 01/24/2011 12:06:31 PM PST by patriot preacher
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To: RedMDer

If I remember correctly, there was a short-lived rebellion in the US at the end of the 18th century by libertarians who tried to establish a “Land of the Free” on a small piece of the country. However, all traces of this reference have been scrubbed by the search engines.


17 posted on 01/24/2011 12:13:08 PM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

As Walter Williams said,

we won the first war of independence,
and lost the second one.

Now, if the left doesn’t allow a peaceful separation,
we’ll have to have a tie breaker.


18 posted on 01/24/2011 12:14:21 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: SeeSharp

Yep, when it’s a law that the feds don’t WANT to enforce, and some locality refuses to enforce it,
it doesn’t cause any problems.

Like restrictions on partial birth abortion, for example...

But, as you said, if it’s a policy they insist on enforcing, like socialism or gun control, they’ll go all in.


19 posted on 01/24/2011 12:16:30 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: GonzoGOP

Where will they send the troops? To DOCTORS offices. Hospitals.

WHERE?


20 posted on 01/24/2011 12:20:14 PM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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