Posted on 01/24/2011 5:47:51 AM PST by Kaslin
Why? "Pro-Choice" is simply a propaganda term to soften "pro-abortion". Abortionism is driven by the belief that a certain category of human persons is actually NOT human in any meaningful sense, nor worthy of protection. Why would abortionists object to any destruction of non-persons?
I have as much common ground with Abortionists as I have with National Socialists or Communists.
Kill / let live. Allow killing / prevent killing.
Commom ground?
I don’t see much common ground between a live baby and a dead one.
If certain laws were enforced, the most egregious late term abortions (and post-birth abortions) could be eliminated.
I’d like to see a law passed [and enforced] punishing anyone coercing a girl/woman into an abortion.
It’s difficult to have “common ground” when one side of the debate refuses to be intellectually honest.
There is no common ground on abortion. NONE!!!!
The Issue is Binary
It is either a Libertarian issue
— Your business is none of my business
— unless You force your will on Me
— Free Will, etc.
Or
It is Murder
Common Ground does not exist.
If someone makes a case for “Moderation”
they are either confused or lying
There is no common ground. The pro aborts support only one choice, and that is death. I became ill listening to the stupid rabbi, Potasnik, on Religion on the Line trying to soft peddle his pro abortion stance. I am glad that a woman who regrets here abortion was on the show to tell him how awful abortion is. I was sick of his weasel words about “get together and talk. . . “. The other side has nothing to say. Period. The proof is the high number of abortions since Roe.
Okay. Let’s start our search for common ground. Here’s my starting point: the unborn is a human life.
Agreed?
maybe allow them to become only mostly dead? Then Miracle Max can step in...
I object to the use of the term "mothers" for these females.
I understand why pro-lifers created the myth that these women are "just another victim of abortion." And no doubt this is somewhat true of some of them.
But it doesn't change the fact that if abortion is murder, then all involved are at minimum accessories to that murder.
And don't call me Shirley.
The bigger the crime, the more invisible...
There are at least 45+ million women and their doctors, who should by rights be in prison or executed, walking among us. Every women who has had an abortion should be required at least 20 year prison time, hard labor (no pun intended).
But instead, this very site celebrates these criminals because they conveniently “saw the light” after murdering their children, and get to go on book tours and do the lecture circuits and have the kind of attention and praise they would never get changing diapers and doing laundry...
Let me repeat: the Free Republic website celebrates the murderers of children.
I get sick and disgusted every time I read one of those threads about these “brave women”, etc.
So what hope do we have?
This is a wrong use of "good conscience." Abortion proponents may sincerely believe they are right - although their irrational reaction to opposition raises doubts about this - but they are following a wrongly-formed conscience, not a good conscience.
Most fans of abortion won't agree to that simple statement. They will agree it is human and that it is alive (both adjectives), but not to the phrase or that it is "a human." (noun)
A few of the more intellectually honest ones will agree, but will deny that the fetus is "a person" under the Constitution, which given the present Court interpretation is correct.
In which case they must agree that not all human lives are persons worthy of protection.
I'm not so sure that's all on the shoulders of pro-lifers. I think that many women who get abortions fall into the victimhood role because it's easier on the conscience to say "I was forced/coerced into having an abortion" than to say "I chose of my own free will to have an abortion," when they are trying to come to terms with the guilt they feel afterwards.
I think it is more true of more of them than most folks realize.
OTOH, nobody is more aware of the enormity and hideousness of abortion than a repentant post-abortive woman.
Most fans of abortion won't agree to that simple statement. They will agree it is human and that it is alive (both adjectives), but not to the phrase or that it is "a human."
A sperm and egg are human. A fertilized egg is human. But good luck getting any insurance company regard it as such. No company or law regards this as a human. We are living in very evil times.
Where was the barf alert?
What fellowship hath Christ with Belial?
To paraphrase, what fellowship hath Life with Death?
You could insure anything, at the right premium rate.
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