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To: Aunt Polgara

So is the orginal sealed to where even you as the individual whose name was changed can’t see it?

In any case regarding Obama he’s refused to release any BC original or revised to reflect an adoption. I think that is the greater point of this matter.


34 posted on 01/23/2011 6:00:24 AM PST by deport
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To: deport

A legally sealed document can ONLY be unsealed by court order.


37 posted on 01/23/2011 6:01:36 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: deport

Part of the HI statute:

§338-20 Adoption. (a) In case of the adoption of any person born in the State, the department of health, upon receipt of a properly certified copy of the adoption decree, or certified abstract thereof on a form approved by the department, shall prepare a supplementary certificate in the name of the adopted person, as fixed or changed by the decree, and seal and file the original certificate of birth with the certified copy attached thereto.

(b) The registrar of births shall show on the supplemental birth certificate the names of parents as stated in the adoption decree pursuant to section 578-14.

(c) Any certified copy of final decree of adoption, or abstract thereof, of persons born in the State, rendered by courts of other states and territories subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, or courts of a foreign country, shall be considered properly certified when attested by the clerk of the court in which it was rendered with the seal of the court annexed, if there be a seal, together with a certificate of the presiding judge, chancellor, or magistrate that the attestation is in due form.

(d) If no original certificate of birth shall be on file with the department, the department may require such evidence as it deems necessary to establish the facts of birth before preparing a supplementary certificate in the new name of the adopted person; provided that no such certificate shall be filed unless it shall be satisfactorily established that the adopted person was born in the State.

(e) The sealed documents may be opened by the department only by an order of a court of record or when requested in accordance with section 578-14.5 or 578-15. Upon receipt of a certified copy of a court order setting aside a decree of adoption, the department shall restore the original certificate to its original place in the files. [L 1949, c 327, §24; RL 1955, §57-23; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; HRS §338-20; am L 1978, c 50, §1; am L 1979, c 203, §2; am L 1980, c 153, §6 and c 232, §18; am L 1988, c 274, §2; am L 1990, c 338, §2]

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0020.HTM

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Apparently the rules vary from state to state. Texas:

Adoption records, whether they are sealed or closed, vary from state to state. The sealed adoption records hold the original birth certificate, adoption court documents and the adoption agency or adoption attorney information that facilitated the adoption. In Texas, adoption records are sealed, opened only by a court order or mutual consent through the Texas Vital Statistics Central Adoption Registry.

Read more: How to Open a Sealed Texas Adoption Record | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_5463202_open-sealed-texas-adoption-record.html#ixzz1Brq60Cv8


47 posted on 01/23/2011 6:10:12 AM PST by deport
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To: deport
So is the orginal sealed to where even you as the individual whose name was changed can’t see it?

Actually, I think so, yeah. In a lot of states adoption records can't even be accessed by the adopted child unless there's a medical necessity.

461 posted on 01/23/2011 7:42:33 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: deport
In any case, regarding Obama, he’s refused to release any BC, original or revised to reflect an adoption. I think that is the greater point of this matter.

He's almost certainly being advised by his legal team not to release it. I doubt he realized or understood the complexities involved, at least initially.

542 posted on 01/24/2011 1:17:47 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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