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Hawaii Ground Report: ( Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Legally Barry Soetoro
The HillBuzz ^ | 1/23/2011 6:52:06 AM | Kevin DuJan

Posted on 01/23/2011 5:20:33 AM PST by TexasCajun

HAWAII GROUND REPORT: Could Hawaiian Governor Neil Abercrombie not be as incompetent and foolish as he appears, but orchestrating a deliberate birth certificate recovery dead end to cover his own papakole? UPDATED: Mystery solved! Reason Obama will not release birth certificate is because his name is legally written “Barry Soetoro” on it

Here’s an interesting Ground Report from Hawaii that contains an ingenious theory about Hawaiian Governor Neil Abercrombie’s bizarre backtrack on releasing Obama’s birth certificate.

Remember, Abercrombie promised that once he was elected Governor he would prove Obama’s birth certificate existed because he would march down to the Hall of Records and demand its production from the archives…and he would then hold it aloft in the gentle Hawaiian breeze, high above his balding pate, for all the world to see, thereby producing the document Obama has spent millions to keep hidden.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: barrysoetoro; birthcertificate; certifigate; coverup; crime; crimes; dunham; eligibility; foreignaidfruad; fraud; hawaii; identityfruad; illegal; kurtz; lawlicense; naturalborncitizen; obama; soetoro; whosauntzeituni; whosyourmommy
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To: melancholy
From the article...No transcripts from college, because those all say Barry Soetoro on them (his legal name).

Thanks for the ping. Interesting article. I think it was Fox News that did a story about BO before the election. In it, they asked lots of students that were at Columbia when he was there if they remembered him. No one did.

Don't recall if any teachers or profs were asked. They would be the ones to ask HOW he signed his papers, tests, etc., right?

141 posted on 01/23/2011 7:19:31 AM PST by azishot (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: hennie pennie

He had to have had a witness to his birth in order to get a passport if there was no original bc. Adoption papers would not have counted.


142 posted on 01/23/2011 7:19:58 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Texas resident
I think that the whole thing with McCain was a total ruse, that the ONLY reason they did that, was to figure out if there was some way in which they could PRE-qualify BHO, too.

AND, furthermore, I believe that McCain was IN on this ruse, that HE wanted BHO to win, too.

143 posted on 01/23/2011 7:20:49 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

For information on Closed Record States and Open Record States see http://adoption.families.com/ (and start digging through the site). For more general information covering everything that can or will happen in adoptions in this country just do a Google.com or Wikipedia look up for “closed adoption” or “closed record” or “open adoption” or “open record”. You will be pleasantly surprised ~ by the fact that you gotta’ find the court that has jurisdiction ~ and I doubt Hawaii has jurisdiction.


144 posted on 01/23/2011 7:21:16 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: wideawake

“This is not a case of a child being given up by both his biological parents and his custody being transferred to two non-biologically-related parents.
His biological mother retained custody throughout.

Birth certificates are sealed only in closed adoptions.”

I’m afraid you are wrong, at least in my case. Not only was there no secrecy involved because I was 11 years old when my stepfather adopted us (as he had recently married our widdowed mother, so it was only one parent adopting), the court had my older brother and I sign that we wanted to be adopted!).

Michigan still refused to give me my original birth certificate (as of a few years ago) unless I hired a Michigan attorney to unseal the records. All they would give me is a “certificate of registration” listing my mother and stepfather as parents, my date of birth, registration number and the date the certificate was originally issued.

I am trying again to get my original birth certificate. Maybe their policies have changed.


145 posted on 01/23/2011 7:21:31 AM PST by Aunt Polgara
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To: sueQ

Didnt the flub have something to do with Barry not pledging to uphold the constitution?

And the Oath giver proceed anyhow?


146 posted on 01/23/2011 7:21:37 AM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: hennie pennie
Its my understanding that Romneys grandparents were citizens, and his Parents were also citizens.

Mitt Romney was born to two US citizens in the USA. He is NBC.

147 posted on 01/23/2011 7:23:18 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: freekitty
There are dozens of FR threads from 2008 and 2009 in which claims are made that BHO never ever had a U.S. Passport, EVER.

That when young, he first co-traveled on his mom's, and then as a student, he traveled on an Indonesian passport.

When he became a US Senator, then he was given some special senatorial travel document on which he could go anywhere in the world, but that NO, he didn't have a US passport.

I do not understand what might have been found by the clerk who accessed OBAMA records in the D.C. passport records office, and we may never learn as he was murdered shortly thereafter.

148 posted on 01/23/2011 7:24:21 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: sueQ

At the inauguration ceremony witnessed by more than 1 million people on the National Mall and millions more worldwide, Roberts misstated the oath as “execute the office of president of the United States faithfully” and Obama followed suit.

The Constitution requires presidents to take the following oath: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States, and will to the best of my ability preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”


149 posted on 01/23/2011 7:25:50 AM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: PA-RIVER

There were some threads last year about Governor Bobby Jindal in which it was stated that he is ineligible for the US presidency, and in one or more of them some freepers claimed that Romneys’ parents were born in MEXICO, and thus he cannot become US president, no matter where he was born.


150 posted on 01/23/2011 7:26:26 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: mylife
Pakistan has always been a US ally. Obama traveled there during the period when INDIA was considered something other than a trustworthy partner in progress, etc.

What happens with Pakistan is that State will put out advisories to NOT GO THERE every time they have a military coup, and they've had several of those.

Those advisories don't prohibit US citizens from going there ~ they just advise them to not go there.

The US had prohibitions on travel to North Korea, Cuba, Albania and Communist China. Nixon lifted the Chicom thing. The Albanians got rid of the Commies on their own and they got off our list. Obama is working on letting Cuba get off the list.

North Korea continues to be on the prohibited list.

151 posted on 01/23/2011 7:27:00 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Thanks for the clarification.
It was just an aside.


152 posted on 01/23/2011 7:29:19 AM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: hennie pennie
Not unheard of, of course, but so exceedingly rare it usually only happens in exceedingly inbred families (like mine, and yours, and ....... well, you know, those guys in a tribe with 500 members).
153 posted on 01/23/2011 7:30:00 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: azishot

Some freepers hypothesize that BHO’s missing time at Columbia was when he was traveling to Afghanistan and Pahhhkeeestan as a CIA agent.


154 posted on 01/23/2011 7:30:00 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: MrDem

There are lots of theories of what ZERO is hiding. The only dead on certainty is that SOMETHING is being hidden.


What we need is disclosure (Warning: humor video cartoon)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q76cxfcNK-M


155 posted on 01/23/2011 7:30:14 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: hennie pennie

He probably couldn’t get one in the US; if he did not have an original bc. If he was born in the US; but had no bc; he would have had to have a witness at the time of birth state so in order to get a passport.


156 posted on 01/23/2011 7:31:48 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: hennie pennie
AND, furthermore, I believe that McCain was IN on this ruse, that HE wanted BHO to win, too.

My exact thoughts, too. I believe McCain knew all along that BO was not eligible and was only to happy to accept the nomination. This was all part of the plan. He never really wanted to be president. Thing is, he never told Sarah.

157 posted on 01/23/2011 7:31:51 AM PST by azishot (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: Aunt Polgara

OOPS, I forgot to mention, my “certificate of birth registration” also had my place of birth, but not the hospital, or doctor, etc.


158 posted on 01/23/2011 7:31:56 AM PST by Aunt Polgara
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To: hennie pennie

“Barry has NO legal standing to order any judge to do anything.”

You are parsing words.
I really really find it hard to believe that a judge would deny Obama the ability to prove that he was really Obama.

This whole thread has become a joke that runs in circles
with everyone trying to out legal everyone else.

Let me recap what I have read here.
1. Obama was born Obama
2. Obama was adopted by Sotero and his original COLB was sealed under some sacred seal that not even God can break.
3. Obama’s original COLB says he was really born in Hawaii
and with the name Obama. (assuming that this is true)
4. It is the fault of some evil judge that Barry can not put all of this to rest.

I can now go to bed, still a real BIRTHER.


159 posted on 01/23/2011 7:32:04 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Aunt Polgara

very interesting post.

I hope you get what you’re looking for.


160 posted on 01/23/2011 7:32:24 AM PST by Scotswife
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