Posted on 01/10/2011 2:54:43 PM PST by tobyhill
Despite mounting concerns about his bizarre and disturbing behavior, local mental health authorities in Pima County, Ariz. said Monday that no one reported any concerns to them about Tucson mass shooting suspect Jared Lee Loughner.
Loughner is accused of shooting 20 people on Saturday, killing six and wounding 14, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D).
"To the best of our knowledge, he was never and is currently not enrolled in our system," said Neal Cash, president of the Community Partnership of Southern Arizona, the organization that provides mental health services to Tucson and Pima County for the state.
The majority of the people they serve are on Medicare, Cash said, but anyone diagnosed with a serious mental illness would be in their system and eligible for services. Despite severe cutbacks in the state mental health budget as a result of the foreclosure crisis and recession - Cash estimates around $50 million has been cut in the last two fiscal years - he said that no one diagnosed seriously mentally ill has been turned down for services.
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Do all states have these?
Can only LEOs file the forms?
I wonder if the public can find out if forms have been filed with such an authority?
Amazing what you learn....
You have no idea how many of SMI people like these are out on the streets because of lack of funding to Mental Health Clinics.
My wife was a case manager in AZ for such a public clinic that would supervise such people. She lost her job because they had to cut staff because of lack of funds.
Remember the guy a couple years ago that killed a couple policemen and others in (I think it was) Tacoma Washington? He was homicidal and had been out on the streets.
We have a choice to make here. Either fund these places so these types can be kept an eye on or ignore them. Oh and BTW. These people are often quite intelligent and most are harmless. Yet when they are not supervised and quit taking their meds because they think they feel fine, they go off.
The blogger states that many people who had received DEATH THREATS from Jerry Loughner called them into the cops, and NOTHING happened.
It was stated earlier the sheriff told the people who were threatened by this POS that the mental health authorities were on it and further action was not needed.....did he just flat out lie?
He posted at the conspiratorial website ABOVE TOP SECRET using the moniker: erad3
ADHS/DBHS FORM MH-100 APPLICATION FOR INVOLUNTARY EVALUATION, (Pursuant to A.R.S. § 36-520)
Sheriff Dupnik damn well did know this kid. He has tried so hard to pin this on Republicans the past few days that he's already admitted that Loughner was known to them. The kid was even kicked out of school, not to be readmitted until "a mental evaluation" is completed. Pima County authorities, Dupnik, have known for awhile what this kid was capable of. The blood is on THEIR hands!
The sheriff has stated that his dept. was aware of previous death threats made by Loughner to others in the past. Those “others” were told by the sheriff’s office that Loughner was being monitored by mental health athorities and presented no danger.
Wasn’t his mother a county employee?
Can only LEOs file the forms?
Not sure about all states. Florida does. It is nicknamed "The Baker Act". Maybe after the guy who submitted the bill? Or maybe the name of a whacked out guy that they named it after. It's even been made into a verb as in "He was Baker Acted".
Florida allows involuntary commitment for evaluation for a period of 72 hours. I think anybody can petition for a Baker Act, not just LE, but not sure of the exact requirements for Florida.
Nice catch!
More on this dangerous faux Sheriff:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2654534/posts?page=1
Gotcha Sheriff Clarence “Jackas*” Dupnik
Market-ticker ^ | 1/10/11 | Karl Denninger
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 2:14:55 PM by Revel
Oh, you better hope this is not true:
“The sheriff has been editorializing and politicizing the event since he took the podium to report on the incident. His blaming of radio personalities and bloggers is a pre-emptive strike because Mr. Dupnik knows this tragedy lays at his feet and his office. Six people died on his watch and he could have prevented it. He needs to step up and start apologizing to the families of the victims instead of spinning this event to serve his own political agenda.”
What have I been saying? That in point of fact the Sheriff had every opportunity to stop this assault by actually enforcing the law and didn’t do so.
Well now the truth is alleged to be this..... it’s much worse, it appears, than anyone thought:
“Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system. It was also suggested that further pressing of charges would be unnecessary and probably cause more problems than it solved as Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County. Amy Loughner is a Natural Resource specialist for the Pima County Parks and Recreation.”
What’s your response to this Mr. Dupnik? A bit of truth comes out, eh? Exactly how many felonies did you decline to investigate and prosecute? Are you going to slink away from the white-hot light of truth or will you “man up” and admit that your scurrilous allegations were disseminated simply to try to save your own hide from the entirely-appropriate wrath at the ballot box that is certain to ensue come next election?
The suspect didn’t just post one threat on an Internet forum and there wasn’t “just one” incident - it’s alleged here that he made multiple death threats against the staff of the college he was ejected from, radio personalities and local bloggers.
Each and every one of those threats was an offense and had just one of them been prosecuted it would have resulted in the suspect being blacklisted in the NICS database - and thus he would not have been able to buy the gun he shot the people in Tuscon with.
And before you go off on this guy and his blog being some sort of nut, here’s the credentials from his page:
James Kelley is a native of Tucson, born here in 1961. A Navy veteran, he graduated twice from the Defense Language Institute in Monterey CA majoring in Albanian and Persian-Farsi. He was a Balkan area, Middle East North Africa, Southwest Asia, and Gulf Area analyst for the Naval Security Group and the National Security Agency. He received his Bachelor of Science in Sociology from the University of the State of New York, Albany. Since leaving the service he has worked as a premium cruise line representative, telecommunications specialist, real estate broker, and as a substitute teacher in local school districts.
Presently, Mr. Kelley is a contributing columnist for the Arizona News-Telegraph and the Executive Director of SocialNetworkingWatchdog.Org, a 501(c)3 non-profit organization dedicated to educating youth and seniors on personal security while using social networking.
Does Arizona have a recall process for so-called “elected officials” who behave like this and refuse to accept responsibility for their conduct - including but not limited to blaming others for their own failures that result in the death of innocent people? How about some sort of impeachment procedure? If you don’t, you need both - right now.
Best-a-luck in the next election Sheriff.
You’re gonna need it.
“Amy Loughner is a Natural Resource specialist for the Pima County Parks and Recreation. “
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2654488/posts
The sheriff stated he was aware of threats the kid had made. LE was familiar with him, etc. The sheriff dropped the ball big time.
If threats were made and the sheriff did not act on them, he has to answer to that.
who decides who is nuts?
Obama?
Media Matters?
I think this sherriff should have investigated and at least filed a report. He should have also done his press conference with a little more truth and less CYA.
I am curious at to what was in those reports. Was he only attending rallies and making comments or was he making real threats.
Be careful folks, this will be easy to moph into “believing in the 2nd amendment makes you a creadible crazy person.”
Oh, I don't know, maybe the repeated death threats that they investigated?
The “boy’s” mama works for the county.
YOU BETCHA! And I hope all the Tucson folks who received phone and letter threats from the killer and reported them to the Sheriff's dept. will come forward! The killer could have easily been stopped if the Sheriff was doing his job!
Please read the following and spread far and wide! This needs to be investigated NOW!
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