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Giffords tragedy could be a defining moment for Palin
Yahoo News ^ | 1-10-2011

Posted on 01/10/2011 11:47:51 AM PST by Scythian

Within an hour of Saturday's tragic shooting in Arizona, the Twittersphere had quickly seized on a map put out by Sarah Palin's political action committee last year that had gun-sight images over the congressional districts of House Democrats she wanted to win for the GOP in 2010.

Among her targets: Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona, who was critically wounded by a gunman Saturday. His motives, authorities say, are not fully known. But friends of the suspect, Jared Loughner, have suggested that he had held a grudge for at least three years against Giffords dating back to when he met her in 2007.

Still, some believe that incendiary rhetoric like Palin's bears some responsibility in the tragedy. Giffords herself had previously raised concerns about Palin's map: "The way that she has it depicted has the cross hairs of a gun sight over our district. When people do that, they have got to realize there are consequences to that action."

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To: Arizona Carolyn

I don’t think so.


61 posted on 01/10/2011 2:06:28 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn; onyx

Here’s some quotes from Obama put together by gateway pundit:

The media and democrats want us to focus on the nation’s “caustic political climate” after the tragedy yesterday. Maybe they should start with President Obama.
He may be the worst offender.

** Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
** Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
** Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
** Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”
** Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
** Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
** Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
** Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
** Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”

If the media really wants to improve the “caustic political climate” they may want to start at the White House.

http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/01/did-barack-obama-cause-the-shootings-yesterday-in-tucson/

Anything they are spinning about Palin pales in comparison to their Dear Reader’s calls for political violence. And we actually had Union thugs take him up on his violent suggestions and attack people at the Tea Party protests.


62 posted on 01/10/2011 2:06:37 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Scythian

(from National Review)

Okay a lot of people continue to insist Sarah Palin’s Facebook map with some crosshairs on vulnerable districts amounts to incitement to murder, even though the exact same sort of map is fairly common currency among liberals and Democrats, too. And the connection between Palin’s map and the deranged murderer’s actions are nothing like proven, or even credible.

Well, let’s take them at their word.

Let us “hold our fire” and talk no more of “campaigns.”

Let us ban the phrase “over the top” even when discussing over the top rhetoric.

Never again must we focus on “battleground states” or even cast our eyes on a “battleground” poll.

Goodbye ad “blitzes,” “ad wars,” and “air wars” too. Politicians shouldn’t “fire when ready” or unready. And aides should never jump on even a figurative grenade.

This is the end of to union-launched “offensives” in the “trenches” and the demise of full-on “assaults.”

Let’s not discuss the “nuclear option,” and call an end to the “wars” on poverty and cancer.

We must liberate ourselves from our “bunkers” and forget “defending our territory” electorally or metaphorically. Likewise, let us never speak again of opening a new “front” here, there or anywhere.

Purge from the history books Al Gore’s oath to “stand and fight” and John Kerry’s schmaltzy “reporting for duty.”

Alas, I cannot think of what to call this cessation in militaristic discourse, since none dare call it a “truce” or a “ceasefire.”


63 posted on 01/10/2011 2:07:09 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: roses of sharon

Same Palin haters. They are fooling nobody who knows them by their posts.


64 posted on 01/10/2011 2:08:48 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: napscoordinator

The use of rifle sights in political literature or images is a general METAPHOR commonly understood in the English language to indicate zooming in on a target.
For example, “I have my sights set on this person, or institution, or amendment...”. It is NOT meant to be taken literally! ie, it does not mean “I am using my rifle sights so that I can shoot my rifle at that person, (or institution, or amendment...)”
Only desperate, cynical supporters of big zero Obama could read into the metaphorical cross-hairs on Palin’s map any actual lethal intention to kill a person!
But to throw lying dust into people’s eyes in order to protect fraudster Obama from answering any real questions is normal behaviour for gutter politicians and their corrupt media mouthpieces.


65 posted on 01/10/2011 2:09:10 PM PST by sergemck
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To: ReverendJames

Becky Mansour did Sarah no favors by trying to deny that crosshairs are not, but only “surveyor symbols”. This was completely stupid, and makes Sarah appear stupid. It leads to the question as to why Sarah keeps her as a spokeswoman.

When Palin herself posts, she is thoughtful and considerate. She is dumb in allowing Mansour to post in her name.


66 posted on 01/10/2011 2:10:52 PM PST by saltus (God's Will be done)
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To: SaraJohnson; Arizona Carolyn; RobinMasters

Thanks very much. I copied that list fromm Robin Masters today. Very telling, isn’t it?

Glenn Beck is on fire!


67 posted on 01/10/2011 2:13:23 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

The mere fact that Palin, who isn’t one to hold back in the face of such a sustained attack, hasn’t yet responded to any of the criticism suggests she understands the high stakes of the situation and the choices in front of her.

“The fact is that politicians say these things because they work,” (Republican consultant Todd Harris). “The public, or at least segments of the public on the right and the left, respond to it. It raises money and builds organization.”


68 posted on 01/10/2011 2:15:26 PM PST by saltus (God's Will be done)
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To: onyx
Same Palin haters. They are fooling nobody who knows them by their posts.

Lots of commonality between Rat and MSM propaganda and their views on Palin. Was wondering when they would start, didn't take too long.

69 posted on 01/10/2011 2:21:07 PM PST by The Cajun
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To: napscoordinator

Glenn Beck is on fire in support of Sarah Palin!


70 posted on 01/10/2011 2:27:33 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: The Cajun

Glenn Beck just said, he stands with Sarah Palin.


71 posted on 01/10/2011 2:29:02 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: SaraJohnson

Good post, thank you


72 posted on 01/10/2011 2:36:35 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: onyx
Caught Rush, missed most of Hannity and now watching Beck also. Will be anxiously waiting for Mark Levin tonight, hope he will be doing his show. Mark tends to cut to the chase with the gloves off.
73 posted on 01/10/2011 2:38:10 PM PST by The Cajun
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To: napscoordinator
To 45 - Not weird at all. In this case people were killed and a lady is fighting for her life in the hospital. Mrs Palin is merely being respectful and unselfish.
74 posted on 01/10/2011 3:10:26 PM PST by jla
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To: Arizona Carolyn; onyx; Polybius; r9etb
Onyx, do you have a link to the thread last fall where the marks were explained as surveyors marks??

AC, I never saw that thread, but Neal Boortz covered this thoroughly earlier today. You can read his findings on his website at this link: SARAH PALIN'S MAP.

He researched this on the US Geological Survey website and confirmed that those are indeed used by surveyors to mark what are called 'Principal Points' on maps, Polybius' and r9etb's assertions to the contrary notwithstanding. Boortz goes even further and gives examples of Democrat ads using actual bulls eyes.

That said, r9etb's observation that it would have been far better for Palin's aide to not attempt to use this as a defense is correct. Palin and her spokesmen should have just said "So what?" There was absolutely nothing wrong with their political ad/map from last year's campaign.

75 posted on 01/10/2011 3:19:15 PM PST by tarheelswamprat
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To: Polybius; Admin Moderator

IBTZ....

Mods, get rid of this piece of garbage

Palin is being accused of murder and this piece of crap decides to make political points. please put a stop to this


76 posted on 01/10/2011 3:35:23 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin or 3rd party... no exceptions !)
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To: onyx; Jim Robinson

I would imagine that Jim would draw the line on letting them help the commies indict Sarah Palin.


77 posted on 01/10/2011 3:42:09 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: The Cajun

Mark came through, too.

He came out blazing for Sarah Palin and now he’s playing clips of their side’s vitriolic HATE speech.


78 posted on 01/10/2011 3:46:37 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: tarheelswamprat

Thanks very much!


79 posted on 01/10/2011 3:47:37 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: roses of sharon; Jim Robinson
I would imagine that Jim would draw the line on letting them help the commies indict Sarah Palin.

Jim has a good eye for such things.

It's *sport* for some here. Those scant few never miss an opportunity to indict her. This time it's serious, as Mark Levin has just discussed. They're tying to hold her responsible for mass murders, using the murdered disprectfully to advance their Marxist agenda and assualt against Sarah Palin.

Unconscionable that a poster or posters here would advance that nasty, vile cause.

80 posted on 01/10/2011 3:55:40 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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