Posted on 01/08/2011 10:19:45 PM PST by winoneforthegipper
"From February to September 2010, Loughner had five contacts with PCC police for classroom and library disruptions at Northwest and West campuses. On September 29, 2010, College police discovered on YouTube a Loughner-filmed video made at Northwest Campus. In the video, he claims that the College is illegal according to the U.S. Constitution, and makes other claims.
"Working with legal counsel, College administration issued a letter of immediate suspension on September 29, 2010. That evening, two police officers delivered the letter of suspension to the student at his and his parents’ residence and spoke with the student and his parents.
(Excerpt) Read more at azbiz.com ...
just keep him away from the general population and everything might go well for you
Exactly as I have said. As for the rest of the study they did no controls to rule out the possibility that those prone to mental illness, schizophrenia in particular in this case, are more likely to self-medicate with pot. They didn't do that because it's not possible to determine that.
Now, would you like to purchase one of a thousand studies done with more data and more controls that prove that man-produced CO2 is causing Glowbull Warming? Special deal for you today. LOL
You need to keep your day job because you're never going to make it as a mind reader.
It is a psychotropic drug and definitely needs to be avoided by the mentally ill.
Exactly what I said isn't it?
It certainly does not have a “calming effect” on a Schizophrenic affective, okay?
It certainly has on the schizophrenics I have known.
There is no need to attack mental health practitioners who disagree with you as being “full of it.”
I don't think any mental health professionals have posted here. But there is a need to attack BS when it appears.
They deal with it every day - you just smoke it.
Again, you fail miserably as a psychic.
You were wrong about the meetings and you’re wrong about this. I can see you’re getting your panties in a bunch about it so I’ll try to clarify for you one LAST time - The parents bear no legal responsibility for the whacko’s actions.
But NO ONE stops caring for their child just because said child turns 21. They must have seen signs of his illness. If they didn’t see, they were told in the meeting with school officials. For the parents’ sake, I hope they did all they could to get him help.
We keep him guarded when he is ill. When sane, he works just like everyone else. Or had you rather I do as the libs and put him on SSI so people such as yourself feel safe from the non-violent schizo?
But then again, why do you think you are making your case for pot by saying the mentally ill are more prone to use pot?
If this is so, it obviously doesn't help them and appears to trigger even more severe behavior in them and consequences to society.
And if this is so, it makes a good case for profiling pot users for serious mental disorders such as this Arizona shooting.
such as this Arizona shooting = such as appear to have caused this Arizona shooting.
Apparently cause and effect is a concept you can't wrap your mind around.
If this is so, it obviously doesn't help them and appears to trigger even more severe behavior in them and consequences to society.
Which is perfectly in line with what I've said so far isn't it?
And if this is so, it makes a good case for profiling pot users for serious mental disorders such as this Arizona shooting.
Now you're off on a completely delusional track. You haven't established what percentage of pot users develop schizophrenia. If it's only four times as many as the general population (very dubious declaration) then it is still a very small percentage of the total. Only a lib would waste resources profiling a given group for a marginal possibility of helping an extreme minority of that group.
A lot of nuts people wind up at community colleges. The vast majority of them don’t shoot congressmen.
A minority of a minority. Let's spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to profile 17 million people to find the one who might become violent. I can't believe Cass Sunstein beat you out for the Health Czar job. /s
Pima did something, they kicked him the hell out. With help from the police, which means the police got a folder of data on him.
He may be 22, but when one is a parent of a mentally ill child, one assumes responsibility until the child can care for himself. They not only have to fight the child, they have to fight the system. Since the boy was still taking drugs, he had yet to accept his condition and treatment. His parents lives have been hell for the last several years.
There is no recourse for parents of mentally ill adults. The kids are free agents and only the state can intervene.
It’s an untenable situation. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.
It’s an untenable situation. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.
Agreed. Best for family to step back since there is no ability to step forward.
Yes, this is a pretty straightforward schizophrenic break.
Right age, right sex, right behavior.
Not locking up crazy people is beyond stupid.
Whatever
This means that both pot users and pot defenders* would have a much higher percentage of mentally illness among them than non pot users/defenders. Do you think that this makes the arguments of anonymous pot defenders more persuasive?
[* That users would not be defenders would be a nonsensical argument.]
Climate "science" largely rests on computer models dependent on questionable inputted assumptions. The pot-use/schizophrenia studies in the article I excerpted (and linked) are obviously correlations studies comparing known occurrences of both in controlled actual groups of a population. Correlations never prove OR disprove cause, but have still become the foundation of so much public opinion and public policy - for better or worse.
Bottom-line (because their are so many more urgent matters today):
- Guns are a Constitutional right while drugs/pot are only a habit.
- People need guns while people may want drugs/pot but they should not need them.
Since pot doesn't rank among any of my priorities, that's all I'll have to say.
You stumbled on one truth although I'm sure it was an accident.
Since pot the Constitution doesn't rank among any of my priorities, that's all I'll have to say.
Fixed it for you.
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