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I'm 99.9% sure the Jared Loughner MADE the flag burning video. (Video at link)
YouTube ^ | 1/8/11 | Loughner

Posted on 01/08/2011 6:38:39 PM PST by word_warrior_bob

If you read the description in the video, it has to be him. This video is listed as a "favorite" from his other youtube account, either he made this video (and burned the flag) or there's another person who shares his unique "philosophy".

Here's the description from the video:

=| If there's no flag in the constitution then the flag in the film is unknown. There's no flag in the constitution. Therefore, the flag in the film is unknown. Burn every new and old flag that you see. Burn your flag! I bet you can imagine this in your mind with a faster speed. Watch this protest in reverse! Ask the local police; "What's your illegal activity on duty?". If you protest the government then there's a new government from protesting. There's not a new government from protesting. Thus, you aren't protesting the government. There's something important in this video: There's no communication to anyone in this location. You shouldn't be afraid of the stars. There's a new bird on my right shoulder. The beak is two feet and lime green. The rarest bird on earth, there's no feathers, but small grey scales all over the body. It's with one large red eye with a light blue iris. The bird feet are the same as a woodpecker. This new bird and there's only one, the gender is not female or male. The wings of this bird are beautiful; 3 feet wide with the shape of a bald eagle that you could die for. If you can see this bird then you will understand. You think this bird is able to chat about a government? I want you to imagine a comet or meteoroid coming through the atmosphere. On the other hand, welcome yourself to the desert: Maybe your ability to protest is from the brainwash of the current government structure.


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Another tip off is one of his keywords is "bce", part of his lingo from his bizarre videos in his youtube account and his additional "brainwash" conspiracy theory also contained in the description of this video.

It's hard to believe 2 people could both write such similar disjointed mumbo jumbo.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10

1 posted on 01/08/2011 6:38:41 PM PST by word_warrior_bob
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To: word_warrior_bob
That's a pretty good bet that this is Loughner.


Jared L Loughner's YoutTube Channel

2 posted on 01/08/2011 6:47:35 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: word_warrior_bob

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10

Clickable link to Loughner’s original youtube account.


3 posted on 01/08/2011 6:50:04 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Red Steel

You’re showing the video on his youtube channel that he has marked as a favorite.

Many people are assuming that he didn’t make the flag burning video, that it’s just a favorite video of his. I’m just pointing out that both accounts are his.

Most comments I’ve seen just allude to him marking this video as his favorite but if they would just look at the description in the video it’s obvious he made the flag burning video.

Just more ammo that he’s no Tea Party person.


4 posted on 01/08/2011 7:03:38 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Red Steel
That's a pretty good bet that this is Loughner.

And this vid gives the most direct clue that he leaned way to the left. The overriding message of this video is that those on the right are destroying this country. Note the super-imposed comment that "I only have one arm," the right one, before he sets the flag on fire.

That being said I would still view this as the action of a sick, psycho rather than someone with any kind of coherent political philosophy. Coherent is not a word that can be associated with any of his rants.

5 posted on 01/08/2011 7:07:32 PM PST by newheart (Please don't shoot at the thermonuclear weapons. --Vic Deakins)
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To: newheart

Early on in the day when I saw his rantings it was obvious that he was mostly INSANE, more mental illness than left wing (though I think they go hand in hand, lol).

We all knew what the meme would be within seconds of hearing a democrat had been shot. No matter how many times the left wing scum are WRONG about right wing “lunatics” they go to the same playbook.

Loughner is no right winger, no tea partier, and if anything he’s a hard lefty, but most of all he’s nuts, really, really nuts.

With that being said the left is STILL trying to paint him as an “anti-government” type, it’s despicable.


6 posted on 01/08/2011 7:24:22 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: newheart
I watched this video earlier today. This guy either has a mental illness or has been taking way too many drugs. Garbage bags over his pants?

There are plenty of people that have political issues they are adamant about, but this guy's big concerns were proper english and the gold standard?! Some weird combination of Prof. Henry Higgins, Ron Paul and John Hinkley Jr.

7 posted on 01/08/2011 7:25:35 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: word_warrior_bob

bump


8 posted on 01/08/2011 7:49:59 PM PST by tutstar
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To: word_warrior_bob

Not IT here but is there any method of tracking the person who posted the original account thru IP address?


9 posted on 01/08/2011 8:16:56 PM PST by nomad
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To: word_warrior_bob

Not IT here but is there any method of tracking the person who posted the original account thru IP address?


10 posted on 01/08/2011 8:16:58 PM PST by nomad
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To: nomad; Swordmaker

I’m sure some industrious FReeper has the computer skills to confirm that both of these youtube accounts belong to the gunman. Swordmaker perhaps?


11 posted on 01/08/2011 8:34:33 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Red Steel

Well, if he didn’t make it - he favorited the video so that means he at least agreed with it and liked it.


12 posted on 01/08/2011 8:52:48 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: word_warrior_bob

It’s obvious to anyone interested in a grain of truth that he isn’t a conservative, Tea Party, etc. Even if he didn’t make that video favoriting it means he agrees with the message regardless of whether he personally produced it.


13 posted on 01/08/2011 8:54:28 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: nomad

That would be interesting, but even if it is not his the fact he favorited it and posted it on his channel is an endorsement of the message regardless.


14 posted on 01/08/2011 8:57:09 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: word_warrior_bob
Anyone, and I mean anyone who advocates or even tolerates burning our flag is a traitor and deserves to be treated as such. Court decisions be damned!

Old Glory by 10 Pound Test

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

15 posted on 01/08/2011 9:16:25 PM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Two terms come to mind:
1) Agent Provocateur, and
2) Reichstag Fire.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

16 posted on 01/08/2011 9:21:23 PM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: Red Steel
I agree, there is a good chance that Loughner made the flag burning video.

That video reminds me of this:

Still, judging from those bizarre videos, Loughner seems to be motivated by more by mental illness than by politics.

Here comes the insanity defense.

17 posted on 01/08/2011 10:45:44 PM PST by TChad
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To: word_warrior_bob

http://www.azbiz.com/articles/2011/01/08/news/breaking_news/doc4d29463932228218107137.txt

Interesting the Time line doesn’t make sense unless the school made him delete the videos.

The school discovers the video critical of the school and constitution on Sept. 29th but according to YouTube that video wasn’t posted Nov. 30th.

The creepy burning the flag video that he listed as a favorite was posted on Oct. 2nd. We still don’t know if that was him in the video.

His parents meet the school on Oct. 4th.

Creates a youtube Channel on Oct. 25th and starts putting up videos on Nov. 22nd.

HOW DID THE SCHOOL FIND HIS VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE PRE SEPT 29TH? His official channel was created on Oct. 25th, and that other channel with the flag burner was created Oct. 2nd!


18 posted on 01/08/2011 10:47:41 PM PST by RatsDawg
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To: TChad
Still, judging from those bizarre videos, Loughner seems to be motivated by more by mental illness than by politics.

The NY Slimes have reported he was suspended from college until he had a mental eval.

Arizona Suspect’s Recent Acts Offer Hints of Alienation

19 posted on 01/08/2011 10:49:49 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Thanks for the link. The NYT does not seem to have thought it worthwhile to mention that the Communist Manifesto was among the favorite books listed on Loughner's YouTube page. Animal Farm made the NYT's cut, the Communist Manifesto did not. Nor does the article mention Loughner's flag burning video.

Not bias, just oversights, I'm sure.

20 posted on 01/09/2011 12:30:16 AM PST by TChad
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