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Why Are Taxpayers Subsidizing Facebook, and the Next Bubble?
New York Times ^ | January 6, 2011 | Simon Johnson

Posted on 01/06/2011 1:14:08 PM PST by nickcarraway

Goldman Sachs is investing $450 million of its own money in Facebook, at a valuation that implies the social-networking company is now worth $50 billion. Goldman is also creating a fund that will offer its high-net-worth clients an opportunity to invest in Facebook.

On the face of it, this might seem just like what the financial sector is supposed to be doing – channeling money into productive enterprise. The Securities and Exchange Commission is reportedly looking at the way private investors will be involved, but there are more deeply unsettling factors at work here.

Remember that Goldman Sachs is now a bank-holding company – a status it received in September 2008, at the height of the financial crisis, in order to avoid collapse (see Andrew Ross Sorkin’s blow-by-blow account in “Too Big to Fail” for the details.)

This means that it has essentially unfettered access to the Federal Reserve’s discount window – that is, it can borrow against all kinds of assets in its portfolio, effectively ensuring it has government-provided liquidity at any time.

Any financial institution with such access to such government support is likely to take on excessive risk – this is the heart of what is commonly referred to as the problem of “moral hazard.” If you are fully insured against adverse events, you will be less careful.

Goldman Sachs is undoubtedly too big to fail – in the sense that if it were on the brink of failure now or in the near future, it would receive extraordinary government support and its creditors (at the very least) would be fully protected.

In all likelihood, under the current administration and its foreseeable successors, shareholders, executives, and traders would also receive generous help at the moment of duress. No one wants to experience another “Lehman moment.”

(Excerpt) Read more at economix.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bailout; facebook; goldmansachs
Proof that the NYT can still commit journalism, on occasion.

I hope no one believes that it's capitalism when the government gives advantages to certain parties.

1 posted on 01/06/2011 1:14:14 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I think anyone who links their RL information to any site on the interwebz is NUCKING FUTZ!

I am FD2003 but there are maybe 3 people, all of whom I trust, who can link that to my RL name and information.

Reminder: The interwebz are ETERNAL. Your every statement, be it on a virtual “wall” or in your self-important “about me” (or whatever the heck it is) area is picked up and cached by Google, Yahoo, Bing, etc. in microseconds and will be here forever. Talk about act in anger, repent at leisure...


2 posted on 01/06/2011 1:23:00 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Nothing sharpens the mind like not being able to get a job. /Nonstatist)
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To: nickcarraway

> Why Are Taxpayers Subsidizing Facebook, and the Next Bubble?

That’s easy.

Because Facebook and Next Bubble are owned by Leftists.


3 posted on 01/06/2011 1:26:12 PM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: freedumb2003
Talk about act in anger, repent at leisure...

That is also true if I post on FR.

4 posted on 01/06/2011 1:26:14 PM PST by w1andsodidwe (How can you tell when the President is lying? When his lips move, of course.)
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To: nickcarraway
$450 million for Facebook. LinkedIn is going public.

Was there ever a time in history that we were giving Billion dollar valuations to websites that had no business?

Does anyone remember the NASDAQ bubble, wel here we go again.

5 posted on 01/06/2011 1:34:56 PM PST by Why So Serious
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To: nickcarraway
$450 million for Facebook. LinkedIn is going public.

Was there ever a time in history that we were giving Billion dollar valuations to websites that had no business?

Does anyone remember the NASDAQ bubble, well here we go again.

6 posted on 01/06/2011 1:35:20 PM PST by Why So Serious
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To: Why So Serious

Facebook may be overvalued, but the numbers that have been leaking out suggest they made $400-500 million inprofit in 2010, which is a real business.


7 posted on 01/06/2011 1:37:27 PM PST by Wayne07
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To: nickcarraway
Why Are Taxpayers Subsidizing Facebook

They aren't.

8 posted on 01/06/2011 1:41:41 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: w1andsodidwe

>>That is also true if I post on FR. <<

LOL!!! Check my posting history, especially on CREVO and Palin threads :) And I was SOBER (well, mostly)!


9 posted on 01/06/2011 1:44:21 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Nothing sharpens the mind like not being able to get a job. /Nonstatist)
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To: Why So Serious
Facebook and LinkedIn both make money.

I don't think Facebook's CEO has any intention of going public any time soon.

10 posted on 01/06/2011 1:47:05 PM PST by nickcarraway (Repeal Obamacare/Republicare!)
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To: nickcarraway; All

“And noone wants to experience another “Lehman Moment””.

And what gets me was how when from 2007 to 2008, both Lehman and Goldman Sachs increased their CEO’s salaries by many $millions, the one failed and the other prospered.


11 posted on 01/06/2011 1:59:24 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Why So Serious

“Silicon Valley”


12 posted on 01/06/2011 2:15:34 PM PST by funfan
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To: gleeaikin

Well, Goldman had it’s nervous moments. But it helps when you’re a branch of the government.


13 posted on 01/06/2011 2:45:38 PM PST by nickcarraway (Repeal Obamacare/Republicare!)
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To: nickcarraway

Here’s why

Barack’s Wall Street Problem is Now America’s

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/baracks-wall-street-problem-is-now-americas/


14 posted on 01/06/2011 5:01:15 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori">)
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To: nickcarraway
Facebook IS the next bubble. Think about it. Before there was Facebook, there were chat rooms where you added people onto your buddy list and networked via that method, then Faceparty came to be, then TheDilly, then Friendster, then Myspace, then Facebook. Who knows what new form of social networking will come to be? Hell.. they're all just complicated IP and information phishing honeypots anyway.
15 posted on 01/06/2011 5:12:39 PM PST by NorthStarStateConservative (I'm just another disabled naturalized minority vegan pro life conservative.)
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To: NorthStarStateConservative

Good description, an IP address and information phishing honeypot!


16 posted on 01/06/2011 7:27:39 PM PST by vmpolesov
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