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1 posted on 12/30/2010 1:25:03 PM PST by Delacon
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2 posted on 12/30/2010 1:32:53 PM PST by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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Now tell me about the history of ‘takers’ to ‘makers’ in the US, and how that is not supposed to make any difference.


3 posted on 12/30/2010 1:35:04 PM PST by The Duke
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To: Delacon
Though we´ve never had an islamist president before, who´s entire administration seems
hell bent on destroying America with virtually every move it makes.
4 posted on 12/30/2010 1:39:37 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Delacon

I’ll agree with VDH’s general thesis, but in the “it’s different this time” category, I am truly not sure if the US and all its “enduring values” (to summarize VDH in the article) can overcome the systematic, pervasive, and pernicious assaults they presently suffer, simultaneously attacked on so many fronts.

If indeed, again per VDH, the killer factor is the “strength of the people”, then I am again not sure da peeple have the guts to pull it off this time. Yes, the potential is there, always was always has been, probably is now. But da peeple are under attack from the institutions they used to rely on, benefit from, and revere. The “rule of law” has been turned on the people, and I believe has been twisted to the point where criminality is now considered sacrosanct as long as the amount of money is big enough. The US has always been such a rich store of wealth and resources, that it has always been able to withstand the petty looters, the parasites, and even the traitors within. This time? With the entire banking system bailed out via taxpayer funding for looting the system? Having already fostered the transfer of middle-class wealth creation offshore? With healthcare poised to weaken both the physical health and the economics of the American family and the individuals contained therein? With literally all governments, at every level, bankrupt and poised to raise taxes and constrict opportunity and economic freedom every chance they get?

I’ll not argue that the raw material resides right here in the US. That’s not to say that any and every force has its point of being overpowered. Just where that is is what I wonder about.

When does it get to the point that the rational man cannot help but see the imminent demise of the state that once encouraged his properity but now attacks it; and cannot overcome his own survival instincts and thus switches from patriotism to self-survival?


5 posted on 12/30/2010 1:44:46 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder ("Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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Demographics are much different this time. Instead of immigrants who want to assimilate, we instead have hyphenated Americans in which ethic pride/tribalism trumps all and things like freedom, liberty and the Constitution are just meaningless words.
7 posted on 12/30/2010 1:48:32 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Delacon

Dumb Cheerleaders trick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pno7TVVcZdM


14 posted on 12/30/2010 6:31:49 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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They say that the Euro, the Yen, the Yuan or some “basket” containing all the above will become the currency of world commerce replacing the tired old Dollar. The only problem is that none of those have the full faith and backing of the people of the United States.

One international hiccup and they would come tumbling back to the Dollar.


15 posted on 12/30/2010 6:40:19 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Democrat Party is shovel ready)
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“national strength is still measured by the underlying hardiness of the patient — its demography, culture, and institutions “

Uh, David, that’s just where we’re hurting like we never have before.


17 posted on 12/30/2010 6:56:25 PM PST by mrsmith
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Nice try, Vic. The problem we face today is unprecedented in our history, however. Our Republic is being strangled by hundreds of thousands of unelected, barely accountable government officials in federal and state bureaucracies. These people are unionized, drain the treasury with huge salaries and pensions and are practically immune to restraint from elected officials.

At some point, the unelected bureaucracy acquired enough power to run things almost independently of our elected representatives. Until these people are reigned in, nothing will change. Indeed, things will keep getting worse.
19 posted on 12/30/2010 8:29:54 PM PST by Antoninus (Fair warning: If Romney's the GOP nominee in 2012, I'm looking for a new party.)
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To: Delacon
In short, a nation’s health is gauged not by bouts of recession and self-doubt, but by the durability of its political, economic, military, and social foundations.

Then one could conclude, a nation’s enemy is one who attacks such...

Right now we see 0zeromumboteleprompto, the community organizing leftist usurper, in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue 'attacking' all four institutions. Circumventing congress with policy and czars, suffocating and bankrupting the economy, imposing homosexual sex upon the military, and imposing homosexual sex, dependency, reeducation and abortion upon society...

The enemy is the left.

25 posted on 01/03/2011 4:33:21 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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