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What a War Between China and the United States Would Look Like
Popular Mechanics ^ | December 29, 2010 | Erik Sofge

Posted on 12/30/2010 6:38:56 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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To: cripplecreek

“We’d play hell getting them to build weapons for us.”

Exactly, we’d run out of bullets and boots in no time. But I’ve been told by many freepers that it is the free market in action, and it’s good!

In reality, we’d quietly walk away. There would be no fight, Obama would write a stern letter, and that would be the end of it.


21 posted on 12/30/2010 6:53:41 AM PST by brownsfan (D - swift death of the republic, R - lingering death for the republic.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Here’s a way to stop the whole thing. Give Taiwan nuclear weapons and a few submarines from which to launch them. Neither side is likely to use them as neither side comes from a suicide culture. (Unlike Islamists, who exult in suicide.)

I’ll guarantee you when Obambi failed to respond to the Chinese invasion of an island claimed by China and Japan, that Japan began their own nuclear program; constitution be damned. When Obambi responded to the North Korean sinking of the Chonan with a stiff note saying he “highly deplores” that SK started working on nukes. Taiwan was paying attention and I’m sure they did too. I’ll bet they all rang up the Israeli’s and invited the trade delegation or ambassador for tea.

I’d be shocked if all three don’t already have working prototypes ready to test. They’ll do it someplace quietly when the satellites are all over the horizon. But they’ll all need a credible number of nukes and survivable platforms from which to launch them.

I’d also guess you’ll see a new alliance: India, Israel, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan. All of this proliferation will lie at the feet of the man who so wants to emasculate America and turn the world into liberal fantasy land


22 posted on 12/30/2010 6:53:48 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: The Comedian; Quix

Ping


23 posted on 12/30/2010 6:54:08 AM PST by Silentgypsy
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It’s hard to picture Obama taking decisive action like Truman in 1950 or George H. W. Bush when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. This is the guy who took months to make up his mind whether to send any additional forces to Afghanistan. The Chinese may figure that their best bet to take over Taiwan in the near future is while he is in office. But they may decide that a re-elected Obama would be even less likely to do anything than one who is running for re-election, so action after November 2012 may be more likely than anything before then.


24 posted on 12/30/2010 6:54:15 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Borax Queen
I heard Savage talking one time about how there are 10 million more men in China — and he was theorizing how they could be used in war. Scary.

Not very effectively in my opinion. They would be a problem if we tried to invade but nearly impossible for them to try to transport if the Chinese had any plan on invading America.
25 posted on 12/30/2010 6:54:17 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Borax Queen; Strategerist
Demographics is not my speciality, but I think I saw that the big bump in male population in China occurred some time ago. We might worry a bit more if China had an overabundance of men age 18-24, but I don't think that's the case. I think China has an overabundance of men in their 30's. That would appear to be somewhat less threatening.

Of course, if I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will come by and correct me.

26 posted on 12/30/2010 6:54:47 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: sukhoi-30mki
If the attack on Kadena didn't trigger a massive counter-battery response on Red China's military infrastructre, the attck on a carrier task force surely would.
We have ,many more assets in the region than are publicly known, and Japan would VERY quickly become a major player.
Even with an America-hating President like O, China would end up badly bloodied.
The same mistake the Japanese made in 1941.
27 posted on 12/30/2010 6:55:02 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

This won’t happen because China has boxed her self in. In three words, Three Gorges Dam!


28 posted on 12/30/2010 6:56:07 AM PST by WellyP
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To: Psalm 73

Back in 41, people in the US and the wider West had greater tenacity and could digest casualties. It’s not the same now. Look at Iraq and Afghanistan.


29 posted on 12/30/2010 6:58:03 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Gen.Blather

The US ‘nudged’ Taiwan and South Korea to end their N-programmes long ago.


30 posted on 12/30/2010 6:58:55 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Gen.Blather

Taiwan had a nuclear weapons program decades ago; we leaned on them heavily and made them stop it.


31 posted on 12/30/2010 7:00:07 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: WellyP

For one, other than US no other regional power can target the Three Gorges. Secondly, attacking the dam would be in theory similar to attacking a city. It’s not like the Chinese don’t know that they face a nuclear threat.

And it’s not like they dont have the means to respond either.


32 posted on 12/30/2010 7:00:37 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

China doesn’t need its military to hurt us; it already builds so much for us that cutting off trade would hurt. Add in calling in our debt to either hyperinflate the currency or demand the right to buy off shore oil leases where Americans have been banned or buy up federally owned “wilderness” to mine or farm as they are doing in Africa today.


33 posted on 12/30/2010 7:00:39 AM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Think of China as an ant hill.


34 posted on 12/30/2010 7:01:22 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Any Chinese move to take over Taiwan would trigger a confrontation with the U.S. Navy and Air Force.

A most dubious assumption. I could make a killing on Intrade with that.

35 posted on 12/30/2010 7:02:28 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Happy new year!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

This scenario doesn’t sound that outlandish to me at all, particularly given the state the economy is liable to be in by 2015.


36 posted on 12/30/2010 7:05:02 AM PST by patriot preacher
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Calling Tom Clancy. Pick up on the red phone!


37 posted on 12/30/2010 7:05:57 AM PST by verity
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To: sukhoi-30mki
It sure as hell couldn't be a politically correct "police action" where we make sure that nobody gets hurt....

.....could it?

38 posted on 12/30/2010 7:06:43 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: Strategerist

I’m no strategerist but I’d think that hordes of cannon fodder are still useful for invasion, urban warfare, demographic warfare, and a followup after biological warfare.


39 posted on 12/30/2010 7:06:51 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Happy new year!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

That point taken, in all honesty, they would kick our collective Socialist asses!

But there is not much to worry about. They also know that now, we have become our own worst enemies and will soon be the cause of our own end from within ourselves.

That is when China will emerge as THE World economic and Military super power. They will have a force of over 2 Billion and will be able to mobilize them to where ever they need them. Believe it!


40 posted on 12/30/2010 7:07:04 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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