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Hawaii’s Governor Takes On ‘Birthers’
New York Times ^

Posted on 12/24/2010 12:47:13 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Hawaii’s Governor Takes On ‘Birthers’ By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG

HONOLULU — Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie, who befriended President Obama’s parents when they were university students here, has been in office for less than three weeks. But he is so incensed over the “birthers” — conspiracy theorists who assert Mr. Obama was born in Kenya and challenge his right to be president — that he is already seeking ways to change Hawaiian law or regulation to allow him to release additional proof that the president was born in a hospital here in 1961.

“It’s an insult to his mother and to his father, and I knew his mother and father — they were my friends, and I have an emotional interest in that,” Gov. Abercrombie said in a telephone interview late Thursday night. “It’s an emotional insult, it is disrespectful to the president, it is disrespectful to the office.”

Mr. Abercrombie, who represented Honolulu in Congress until leaving Washington to run for governor, said he has initiated conversations with his attorney general and his health secretary about how he can make public more explicit documentation of Mr. Obama’s birth on Aug. 4, 1961, at Kapi’olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu. He said he has done so of his own accord, without any request from the president or the White House, which declined to comment.

“He’s a big boy, he can take sticks and stones, but there’s no reason on Earth to have the memory of his parents insulted by people who’s motivation is solely political,” Mr. Abercrombie said. “Let’s put this particular canard to rest.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; hawaii; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks Fred. The University response does match the years claimed by Sr. in the letter to Mboya. I can’t imagine how anyone can cram that much into 3 years though and get the academic honors and still have time for an active social life as he seems to have had from the accounts of Abercrombie and the other friends. Being so successful in his studies and such a total failure in every other realm of life outside of the campus life was such a tragedy! By the way hope you had a very happy Christmas way down under!


181 posted on 12/26/2010 12:15:36 AM PST by Albertafriend
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To: Fred Nerks
“so...let me ask you this...do you believe the Colb posted on fighthesmears is a valid and true Certification of Live Birth for one Barack Hussein Obama, born in Hawaii?

“If yes, skip a turn.

“If no, then why would you assume the transcript was a true and valid record? What provenance have you been shown?”

I have not seen sufficient evidence to support or refute an Obama birth in HI or in Kenya to my satisfaction.

Based on the HI law in 1961 and subsequent modifications it appears that Obama’s 2007 COLB could be an authentic printout of what was in the HI database at the time. I don't have to rely on a conspiracy theory involving the State of HI to get to the COLB. If Obama's grandparents filed a false claim of a HI birth for Obama, that would require no consiracy by the State of HI.

IIRC the universities of HI and WA will send anyone a copy of the transcripts for deceased persons and numerous people have sent for and received SADO’s transcripts from both universities including WND. Are all of those people in on a conspiracy to produce and distribute forged transcripts for SADO along with the registrar's office of the two universities?

It would seem that a conspiracy theory to forge printouts from university registrar's offices in both HI and WA is necessary to support your claims that SASO was not in WA, claims which you have not yet fleshed out unless I missed something.

Have you produced evidence of an Anna Obama who was not SADA which you have not yet shared. Those pictures of the Asian woman named Ann(a) sitting near BHO Sr. in HI don't quite make it for me.

You have stated as a fact that SADO was not the Anna Obama in WA. If you have shared the evidence to support your claim I have not seen it, but would be glad to evaluate it.

182 posted on 12/26/2010 12:31:27 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Fred Nerks
“See second last paragraph...Obama, who has been away from Kenya for seven years...”

This is a hearsay comment reported by a reporter for which I have seen no independent substantiation. Instead I have seen lots of evidence from multiple sources refuting this one seven year statement in one story.

Reporters almost always screw up details in stories as we have seen time and time again in the stories on eligibility. Your mileage may vary!

183 posted on 12/26/2010 12:42:15 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: TLI

Filing Adjustments. I really like that.


184 posted on 12/26/2010 12:43:54 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: 9422WMR
His Grandmothers said he was born in Kenya. The one in Kenya was blockaded by government troops to prevent her from talking to reporters. The one in Hawaii has passed away. The relatives know. Your point about the hospitals is well made. Not a peep. Could they have all passed away by now. Possibly. But more likely his “Hawaiian Birth” never occurred.
185 posted on 12/26/2010 12:50:37 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Seizethecarp

Every time I post a comment that challenges ‘Dreams’ - which has no chronology btw, and never mentions either a period of residence in Seattle or attendance at the U of WA, OR Mercer Island High School...

you jump in and defend ‘Dreams From My Father’ and the various stories told by so-called classmates who apparently have a NEED to fill the gaps in the narative, many of whom contradict each other. I always post SOURCES - you say ‘I have seen lots of evidence from multiple sources’ - SO SHOW ME!


186 posted on 12/26/2010 1:45:53 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks
“you jump in and defend ‘Dreams From My Father’”

I have never done that. Bill Ayers wrote it.

Any mention that SADO went to U of WA is missing from Dreams and undermines Dreams. Any claim that SADO was not the Anna Obama in WA would tend to support Dreams, which I reject.

187 posted on 12/26/2010 3:10:08 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
...Any claim that SADO was not the Anna Obama in WA would tend to support Dreams, which I reject.

...it's a frightening thought isn't it? Not only is paternity in doubt, but if the myth of 'Dreams' is built upon the blending of two women, now you don't know who the mother is, either...just where does Stanley Ann Dunham enter/exit and Anna Obama begin?

188 posted on 12/26/2010 3:40:41 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Seizethecarp
...Instead I have seen lots of evidence from multiple sources refuting this one seven year statement in one story.

And don't forget to answer what I asked you, when I wrote SHOW ME.

That article is the same as described by zero in 'Dreams' - funny how HE didn't query the SEVEN YEARS.

Must have come as a huge surprise when WND found it.

189 posted on 12/26/2010 3:48:14 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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Thanks justiceseeker93.
190 posted on 12/26/2010 6:53:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Fred Nerks
I don't find Dreams or a single report of seven years in this article to be credible. There are numerous references to Obama Sr. gaining admittance to U of HI and going directly from Kenya to HI, IIRC.

As my wife chose Christmas Eve to do a face-plant in the sidewalk (fortunately it was _after her solo_ playing the part of the Virgin Mary in the Christmas Cantata) I have spent most of the past 24 hours at the ER and hospital, so I will not be able to go back to the Obama Sr timeline at this time...

191 posted on 12/26/2010 9:01:54 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp; LucyT; STARWISE; Nachum; Red Steel; WhizCodger
and Mr. Obama’s detractors are also demanding release of his original long-form birth certificate, which is not a public record in Hawaii.”

I wouldn't call it detractors!!!

It's just simple question to follow the CONSTITUTION???

192 posted on 12/27/2010 6:47:58 AM PST by danamco (")
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To: wintertime; patriot08
Totally agree!!!

Interestingly they all are total mum regarding the court martial of Lt.Col. Lakin, hmmm???

193 posted on 12/27/2010 6:53:46 AM PST by danamco (")
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To: Seizethecarp; Fred Nerks
But she stated the very unusually: Natural-born "AMERICAN" citizen???

She's also a medical doctor!!!

194 posted on 12/27/2010 7:08:40 AM PST by danamco (")
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To: butterdezillion; Fred Nerks

And you can add the sitting governor Lingle to the list!!!


195 posted on 12/27/2010 7:33:16 AM PST by danamco (")
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To: Fred Nerks; Albertafriend

What kind of crap is that to believe that you take a newborn baby to social events, please give me a break. This is the most absurd statement that only a RAT could come up with, ROTLMAO???


196 posted on 12/27/2010 7:50:15 AM PST by danamco (")
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To: danamco

...that’s where the story simply comes unstuck; we are expected to believe SAD had a baby on the 4th of August, women spent at least one week in hospital after giving birth in the sixties...that takes us to around the tenth or eleventh day of August, then they attend ‘social events’ according to Abercrombie, and by the 19th of August, she’s living in an apartment in Seattle, has enrolled at the U of WA and is attending classes...which didn’t start until September 25.


197 posted on 12/27/2010 1:29:16 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

I would be skeptical that even SADO would showcasing a mulatto baby at social events, gosh???


198 posted on 12/27/2010 11:48:20 PM PST by danamco (")
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To: PhilDragoo

:))


199 posted on 12/29/2010 1:47:43 AM PST by Seadog Bytes ("Smart Growth"... isn't.)
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