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To: Army Air Corps

I wonder if these idiots know that Russia just started deploying the TOPOL-M SS-19 Road Mobile Missile System with MIRVed capability? No wonder Russia signed. They got their latest hardware out just in time.


17 posted on 12/22/2010 1:16:30 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy

Please provide a link so that I may share it.


18 posted on 12/22/2010 1:17:59 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: massgopguy

From the way I understand it, mobile systems and nuclear sites not declared are not subject to the phony “inspections”. We the Poeple lost this one bigtime. Barry sold the ranch to try to boost his image as some kind of a “peacemaker” instead of the Marxist dictator that he is.


34 posted on 12/22/2010 1:27:58 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Merry Christmas to all of my FReeper FRiends!)
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To: massgopguy

Does anyone know if their is a withdrawal clause in this treaty?


72 posted on 12/22/2010 2:30:22 PM PST by old republic
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And how would defeating the treaty affect that deployment at all?

Part of me thinks it isn’t so much this treaty as it is Obama. Conservatives just don’t trust him when it comes to natl security. With good reason, I might add. I don’t really trust him either.

If this exact same treaty was signed by W in say 2007 or even by a President McCain back in April, I think most conservatives and Republicans would be on board with no questions asked. Conservatives just don’t trust liberals on natl security. Just as liberals don’t trust conservatives on domestic issues.(Witness the tax deal. There’s no way in hell any dems would have voted for it if proposed by a GOP President, even with the goodies thrown in). For that matter, if Mitt Romney had won in 2008 and proposed the exact same Obamacare bill but called it Romney care I’m confident at least 50% of the GOP in both houses would have enthusiastically supported it. Just because it was proposed by a Republican.

It’s about trust in the President. If a Bill Clinton or even an Obama had proposed say the INF treaty or the CFE treaty conservatives would have been up in arms. But because Reagan proposed them they were fine with them. If Obama tried to raise taxes he’d be savaged by conservatives. Imagine if Obama turned tail and ran after a terrorist attack like Reagan did in Beirut in 1983. Or if he was caught selling arms to the mullahs like Reagan was. Reagan raised taxes 3 times and he’s a conservative hero. If Obama even uttered the word amnesty there’d be calls for impeachment. Reagan not only uttered it he signed an actual amnesty and no one really complained. Conservatives attack Obama over the deficit and natl debt, rightly so. But they never really went after Reagan even though he also had problems in those areas. They always made excuses. “The Dem Congress forced him to”. “The spending was all by the Dem Congress” “He had to raise taxes, there was no other choice” “He didn’t know about O’Connor or Kennedy, they lied to him, he thought they’d be good” “They told him the amnesty was ok because they’d really step up the border security after they passed it and it would only be a one time deal” “He didn’t really know what was going on with Iran, North and Poindexter went behind his back” “He had to leave Beirut”.

But...conservatives trusted Reagan intuitively so they accepted his deviations from orthodoxy. Conservatives don’t trust Obama so they anything he does or proposes is seen as wrong until definitively proven not to be.


90 posted on 12/22/2010 3:02:04 PM PST by jeltz25
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