Was Patton killed?

New York Post ^ | December 18, 2010 | ROBERT K. WILCOX

[ConservativeStatement]

Sixty-five years ago this month, Gen. George S. Patton Jr., hero of World War II and an outspoken critic of the Soviets, was en route to a Sunday hunting trip, a day before permanently leaving Europe, when he was critically injured in a vehicle accident on a deserted two lane highway near Mannheim, Germany.

A large US army truck that Patton’s driver later said was waiting for them, suddenly — and without signaling — abruptly turned into his limousine’s path, causing a head-on crash. Even though Patton had an aide with him and the driver of the truck had one or two passengers in the cab, no one but Patton was hurt. He suffered a paralyzing broken neck.

Despite it being early on a no-work day, a horde of military personnel, including a brigadier general, quickly arrived at the scene. And although there were facilities in Mannheim, he was taken to a hospital 20 miles away where, when he arrived, the prognosis was bad. They expected him to die.

But the tough general, vowing to go home and tell “block-busting secrets,” rallied. And in a little over a week he was fit enough to be readied for a grueling trans-Atlantic flight home. On the eve of that flight, he had a sudden relapse. Blood embolisms choked his breathing. Within 24 hours he was dead.

[Logic n' Reason]

;-) !!

[cameraeye]

Your point is well taken. My premise of being a different country is intact. Hitler said the world will only survive in ‘Eternal Conflict”. When will the world prove him wrong?The islamofacists are even more ruthless than the Germans or the Russians could ever be. Our grand children’s lives are at stake and it is good to know that WE the people are very aware of our new enemy. The coming war is at hand and pray to God it does not start we us first.

[cameraeye]

Your point is really an eye opener! I have never heard it put that way. I will go talk with my buddies about your premise and see what their reaction will be.

[BlueMondaySkipper]

One of the reasons for the “medical facilities 20 miles away” instead of in Mannheim, was that the facility was much better quality.

Not to mention the other problem with the hospital in Mannheim. It's very very noisy there because it's located right next to the steamroller factory.

[KC_Conspirator]

lol

[GreyFriar]

See my post #21. Don’t spend your money on the book. It reads like a rehash of a 1970’s novel about an assassination plot to kill Patton using a rubber bullet.

[LS]

No question, and I think this battle has to be fought in the cultural arena as well as military and political. I favor a new “Radio Free Islam/Voice of America” to erode and undermine Al-Jazeera.

[Red Boots]

George Washington has reincarnated as John Huntsman, Sr. Thomas Paine has reincarnated as Glenn Beck.

I don't know of John Huntsman, Sr., but the Glenn Beck/Thomas Paine is one of those things where you just slap your head, of course !

[cameraeye]

“Radio Free Islam/Voice of America”

I really like your thinking. How about some audio guys telling us how it can be done?

[zot]

Thanks! I won’t spend my money on this rehash of a 1970’s novel.

[Riley]

Have I got a present for you:

The General George S. Patton Story Narrated By Ronald Reagan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvL0tj9ZaoY

[Riley]

Have I got a present for you:

The General George S. Patton Story Narrated By Ronald Reagan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvL0tj9ZaoY

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

That's all you need for a huge conspiracy theory about something

Okay, I've got it. Patton knew, via his aide, that Arthur wasn't a natural born citizen and this was the big secret Patton was going to reveal. Fifteen year old George Soros, already planning to use 3 year-old Ann Dunham and an African exchange student to be named later to spawn his chosen candidate for the presidency he would install 60-some years later knew that if the Arthur story became public, he'd never get his man into office and so ordered the hit. Your uncle, obviously, was the triggerman. Karzai knows the whole story and is blackmailing Soros to back his heroin smuggling empire.

[grey_whiskers]

One of the gaps in my knowledge of WW II concerns the Russian Air Force.

Yes, the US supplied materiel in abundance to the Russkies: and I'd match the US production capabilities to Russia's in a heartbeat (the US produced some 48 Thousand Sherman tanks and variants, according to the good folks at Avalon Hill).

But I've never heard or read much about the Russian Air Force's capabilities: neither the quality of their *designs*, nor the actual airframes, nor yet again the skill of their pilots.

And I read once that Stalin pulled out of a planned takeover of Iran in '46 or when Truman sent an envoy to threaten Stalin that if he didn't leave, we'd nuke him.

Doesn't square with what you wrote -- can you give me more information?

Full Disclosure: I just bought your "Patriot's History of the United States" and "48 Liberal Lies" for my college-type cub for Christmas. I hope he lets me read them when he's done...

Cheers!

...oh, and Merry Christmas!

[LS]

Paul Johnson writes that the British and Americans were supplying Soviet airplane engines as late as 1946. Their designs, mostly from Yakovlev and Tupelov, were good---probably the equal to all but the most state-of-the-art FW 190s at the time, but the Germans just didn't have many by the time they were fighting the Red Air Force on a regular basis.

The number on the Shermans and other tanks was 95,000, of which we gave 11,000 to Russia. I've heard the Iran story, but haven't confirmed it in any sources yet. But it's a big difference for Stalin to go to war over Iran, which he almost certainly couldn't hold and never occupied the way he had eastern Europe, and Germany or Poland. But the point is BOTH knew they couldn't win based on their strengths---his conventional forces couldn't be stopped without our atomic bombs, but we couldn't invade WITH the atomic bombs. Stalemate.

[grey_whiskers]

Believe it or not, I saw the Iran story in Time magazine once upon a... you know.

Cheers!

[Smokin' Joe]

Patton, of course, wanted to take Berlin for the western allies, before the Russians got there, but he was not permitted to do it.

Patton also wanted to cut off the "bulge", effectively surrounding the German troops in the salient. This would have saved countless lives on both sides, and may have ended the war more quickly. (On the down side, it would have saddled the Allies with the logistics of dealing with a lot of prisoners).

I recall he was alleged to have made comments to the effect of 'Let's fight the b@stards now, while we have the stuff over here.', referring to the Russians.

[dfwgator]

And he certainly wouldn’t have gotten into that Market Garden fiasco.

[quadrant]

There are several other critical factors to consider:
1. A vast majority of Americans considered Japan - not Nazi Germany - to be the main enemy.
2. Perhaps in official Washington and among elites the Soviet Union was considered an ally; but for most Americans the alliance with the USSR was a war time union of convenience.
3. Agreed, the American public would never have consented to a continuation of WWII against the Soviet Union, but Americans would never consent to Soviet domination of Eastern Europe.

[dfwgator]

but Americans would never consent to Soviet domination of Eastern Europe.

I don't think most Americans even cared, there was still a strong isolationist bent, that was only done away with when the Japs attacked.