Posted on 12/18/2010 9:33:26 AM PST by RatherBiased.com
The Senate has just voted to end debate on a bill that would lift the ban on gays serving openly in the military, essentially clearing the measure for passage and signature by the president.
Lawmakers voted 63 to 33 to end debate on the current policy, put in place by former president Bill Clinton, informally known as "don't ask don't tell."
The Senate could vote on final passage of the measure as early as today but it will most likely happen on Sunday or Monday.
"We are on the verge of ending 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' for good," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said after the vote "This is one of those moments in our history when we stepped up and squared our policies with the values this nation was founded upon."
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
62 years ago, some said that nobody from the South would enlist if certain social values were imposed on the Army. President Truman ignored them and enlistment from the South actually went up. Go figure.
I will be surprised if the number of openly homosexual members is more than 10,000.
I think the number of actual gay marriages was a very low percentage as well. This isn’t really about a groundswell of interest by gay people to serve the country, it’s about sticking a finger in the eye of normalcy, an “in your face” move.
Is there any way they can reverse it? It would require passage of a new bill, and Obama would veto it for sure.
Make him veto it. Looking at 2012 breathing down his neck, he might well be afraid to. Nobody supports it in the real world—not the voters, not the military.
My guess is the Dems and RINOs did this for the money while they could, not because they thought they could make it stick.
yes I will and I will work tirelessly until this is overturned.
Now do you support repeal?
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While we are all up in arms, how about signing the petition from the Victory Institute to support Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Amos.
“The purpose of this petition is not to speak for or against the repeal of the law, but to counter recent efforts calling for Gen. Amos’ resignation. He has served our country with honor for 38 years, and his dedication to the Marine Corps is without question. His statements were founded upon the concerns of the men and women who are directly affected by the law. However, Gen. Amos stated that if “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” is in fact repealed, the Marine Corps would “get in step and move smartly to implement the changes.”
The input of all branches of the Armed Forces is essential in a matter that could prove detrimental to the defense of this nation. Statements such as Gen. Amos’ should be welcomed, not silenced.”
I’m glad I served and got out of the military in 1970. No way would I enlist, now, if soldiers had to deal with today’s mess.
There have been gay service members since there was military. This is apolitical move to give them special status then ask for special treatment then yell discrimination when they don't get their way. It will lead to trouble within the ranks, believe me.
In the end, not really close. 3 more than they needed, and a few other republicans didn’t even vote (although they don’t need to to stop cloture, it may indicate a desire not to go on record).
I will believe this poster has cleared up the misstatement, but with emotions running high, on the board, yours is a valid question. I perhaps should have proceeded earlier.
Nice moral relativism you've got going there. Perhaps you should be posting at DU?
You know not what you speak of. I have worked with the military for almost 20 years and the outrage is far greater than what you read in the liberal media. Why woiuld you choose thios time to belief their tripe?
All I know are extremely pissed off, especially the Marines. One truth I have learned of this world is that it is not a good thing to have a boatload of Marines pissed off at you.
have you served in a combat unit to base your view or is it the usual crap of well I know a couple of queers and they’re nice?
you assume your son is straight.
homosexuals have always been a weak link in all military organizations.
wikileaks is proof of this since a homosexual supplied the recent military docs.
Abu grab was a cell of fetishists lead by a military commander who was “in the closet”.
homosexuals have no place in the military.
murkowski’s D.C. phone message line is full.
The call just hangs up.
Go camping with couple of same sex as you homosexuals in the mountains, for about 9 months to a year.
As I said, homosexuality is a sin, but let's let God sort it out! Let's let the brave men and women that want to serve our country, serve.
I am afraid you are confusing homosexuals and homosexual activists. DADT already permits homosexuals and lesbians to serve, as long as they keep quiet about it and do whatever they do off base and out of sight of their fellow troops.
Homosexual activists insist on the right to do what they want when and where they want, and also insist that anyone who objects must be punished for committing a hate crime.
Good discipline simply will not allow that sort of behavior. What, are we going to have sergeants afraid to speak frankly to their troops? Officers afraid to discipline their men for fear of being dishonorably discharged? Because that is what this is leading to.
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Go F yourself troll. You know not what you speak of. There is no comparion to this in American history.
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