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U.S. Rethinks Strategy for the Unthinkable
The New York Slimes ^ | December 15, 2010 | WILLIAM J. BROAD

Posted on 12/16/2010 7:39:40 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough

The Obama administration wants to convey how to react to a nuclear attack but is worried about seeming alarmist.

The advice is based on recent scientific analyses showing that a nuclear attack is much more survivable if you immediately shield yourself from the lethal radiation that follows a blast, a simple tactic seen as saving hundreds of thousands of lives. Even staying in a car, the studies show, would reduce casualties by more than 50 percent; hunkering down in a basement would be better by far.

But a problem for the Obama administration is how to spread the word without seeming alarmist about a subject that few politicians care to consider, let alone discuss. So officials are proceeding gingerly in a campaign to educate the public.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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1 posted on 12/16/2010 7:39:43 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: LurkedLongEnough

All part of the ‘absorption’ strategy eh Barry?


2 posted on 12/16/2010 7:40:57 AM PST by relictele
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To: LurkedLongEnough

bttt

Civil Defense and a prepared public is a good idea.


3 posted on 12/16/2010 7:41:39 AM PST by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Duck and Cover... Obama's legislative strategy becomes our national defense strategy.

4 posted on 12/16/2010 7:41:51 AM PST by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: TEXOKIE

nahhh, a better idea is to let Iran continue on , unabated , so all the terrorists can be armed.

That way we can be driven into their barbaric caliphate and have stonings every day of the week.


5 posted on 12/16/2010 7:45:42 AM PST by himno hero
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To: Waverunner
When this man ran for the presidency I said we would probably be hit. Barky just confirmed it.
6 posted on 12/16/2010 7:45:51 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

They know something they are not telling us. Not good.


7 posted on 12/16/2010 7:50:39 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Duck and cover America, Obama is on the job.
8 posted on 12/16/2010 7:50:45 AM PST by 2001convSVT (That Beck guy was right about gold, too.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

They are worried about being seen as alarmist? Nearly everthing that has come out from this pos administration has been caricatured a crisis.


9 posted on 12/16/2010 7:51:54 AM PST by Leg Olam (A pipe gives a wise man time to think and a fool something to stick in his mouth.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Or stand behind a fat Democrat like Debbie Stabenow and let her take the initial flash.


10 posted on 12/16/2010 7:52:16 AM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: LurkedLongEnough

IIRC Three feet of wet dirt stops the initial gamma ray burst and several inches of air or a sheet of paper stop Alpha & Beta radiation.

http://www.doh.wa.gov/ehp/rp/factsheets/factsheets-htm/fs3ion.htm

Filter your air and eat/drink from covered sources and you will survive...

IF the initial blast, flying debris & resultant fires don’t get you. But, that “IF” is the same for conventional bombing & shelling.

Back in the ‘70s there was a USMC instructor at the NBC Warfare (nuclear, biological & chemical) school married to a Japanese lady. She had been a one year old infant in a bomb shelter near Ground Zero at Hiroshima (perhaps Nagasaki) when the bo,b was dropped. She survived and all their children were normal.


11 posted on 12/16/2010 7:53:01 AM PST by BwanaNdege ("a comeuppance is due the arrogant elites" - Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“When this man ran for the presidency I said we would probably be hit. Barky just confirmed it.”

Yup. Add this to the latest warning about potential holiday attacks (the story buried under headlines about the Biggest Loser, Dancing with the Stars, etc). I vividly remember the Cuban missile crisis and my dad filling plastic barrels full of water. We were going to head for the crawl space (lived in S. Calif. - no basement).


12 posted on 12/16/2010 7:54:17 AM PST by fivecatsandadog (Don't let reality ruin your day.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Mt thoughts exactly, and I suspect zero and company are part of the plot. He “needs” an event like the OKC bombing that saved Bubba’s @$$. The “hit”, if comes will not be on a major coastal city, it will be in the heartland - OKC, KC, St. Louis, etc for maximum impact on public morale....red


13 posted on 12/16/2010 7:55:15 AM PST by rednek ("Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.")
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Change back to the early 1960s you can believe in!


14 posted on 12/16/2010 7:55:15 AM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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...nuclear attack is much more survivable if you immediately shield yourself from the lethal radiation that follows a blast....

True, except that the initial pulse of IR and UV (not to mention the neutrons) tends to have done its damage before you have the time to think, "Oooh, I better get behind something!" Kind of like being shot with a rifle: the hit comes first, THEN the sound.

And while you're slowly coming to realize that you've just been fried in your tracks, then comes the blast wave, and whatever you were just hiding behind falls in your lap.

15 posted on 12/16/2010 7:56:23 AM PST by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Missing in the article is the necessity of having a reserve supply of food at hand, perhaps two month’s worth (a year would be better, of course).

That’s one message the government could get out without alarming anybody.


16 posted on 12/16/2010 7:58:36 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern, you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Waverunner

The Duck and Cover video is a classic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKqXu-5jw60


17 posted on 12/16/2010 8:00:13 AM PST by Rebelbase
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Below are some NY Times reader comments:

Rodger Lodger: I was never an optimist for the human race -- although I admire it greatly and am rather fond of it -- but the banality of again worrying about atomic war offends my sense of grandeur.

barbaranyc: Oh, good more fear. I guess that will take our minds off the extension of tax cuts for the rich.


18 posted on 12/16/2010 8:03:01 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

The weak are easy prey. And Obama projects weakness on a grand scale.

Let’s hope that those who may want to attack us first carefully consider this quote from Japanese admiral Yamamoto, right after Pearl Harbor:” I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.”

Obama is no FDR resolve-wise, but the average American is still plenty tough.


19 posted on 12/16/2010 8:05:31 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern, you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Recalling some old info. There are three types of radiation alpha, beta, and gamma. Gamma radiation is very short electromagnetic radiation which penetrates materials. So take cover in basements, subways, any substantial structures if you are close to the detonation. Alpha and beta radiation are short range. If caught outside, breath thru a filter of some type, shower and change clothes as soon as possible. Beta radiation is worse if you breath it.

if possible, before the flash (never look at a flash, never look in that direction until the shock wave passes) cover exposed skin to prevent burns. Roll down your sleeves, turn up your collars, etc. As I recall, the intestines are particularly sensitive to radiation damag, so have materials on hand to replace the bacteria in the your gut and for diarreah.

Pray to God that it never happens, but prepare for the worst.


20 posted on 12/16/2010 8:06:48 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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