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To: EternalVigilance

So, in other words, you’re making an assertion based on no evidence.


The evidence that has thus far been persuasive in legal briefs submitted in Obama eligibility lawsuits are that the Governor, Attorney General, Director of Health and Director of Vital Statistics of the state of Hawaii have all confirmed that Obama was born there. The Governor, Attorney General and Director of Health are all members of the “loyal opposition” political party to Obama.
The Director of Health went so far as to declare Obama “a natural born citizen.”

Two contemporaneous birth notices for Obama appeared in local Honolulu newspapers for the week following Obama’s birth. Kapi’olani Medical Center has claimed Obama as being born there in that hospital’s 100 anniversary magazine and Dr. Rodney T. West has been named as Obama’s delivery doctor by one of Dr. West’s good friends. Dr. West died a few years ago.

Thus far, judges have trusted the above evidence as being good enough to establish place of birth.
Finally, thus far no one has been able to produce any credible evidence that Obama was born anywhere else.


581 posted on 12/14/2010 9:19:24 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777

All of that and a buck and half would buy you a cup of coffee.

But it wouldn’t be anywhere near sufficient to get you a security clearance from the US government.


583 posted on 12/14/2010 9:24:27 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The care of human life...is the first and only legitimate object of good government -- Jefferson)
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To: jamese777

If you’re right, why won’t Obama just show the country his long form?


584 posted on 12/14/2010 9:26:54 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The care of human life...is the first and only legitimate object of good government -- Jefferson)
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To: jamese777
Well! Gee! Since it's all sooooooo straight forward why doesn't Obama simply release these common documents?

Odd? Isn't it? With a nod of his head all this could go away.

605 posted on 12/15/2010 1:20:04 AM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: jamese777
Somethings are not what they really seem.....

What may seem as fact to all those :
( ** The evidence that has thus far been persuasive in legal briefs submitted in Obama eligibility lawsuits are that the Governor, Attorney General, Director of Health and Director of Vital Statistics of the state of Hawaii have all confirmed that Obama was born there. The Governor, Attorney General and Director of Health are all members of the “loyal opposition” political party to Obama. The Director of Health went so far as to declare Obama “a natural born citizen.” ** ) ....

is not so...


by a former CIA agent: Clearing the Smoke on Obama's eligibility .....

Is this not enough of a red warning flag to you to even take a moment and take notice ????

The former CIA agent makes a point and proves it, that ?
Under certain accommodations of the laws that were in place back in 1961, that in fact, that may seem to be a legitimate birth in Hawaii could have been a birth from another state, or even another country......

If you had knowledge of hindsight and you knew what was going to happen on the Titantic, and you were the ship's captain ? would you not listen to your crew that there is a iceburg ahead and take appropriate actions to save your ship , crew and passengers from a shipwreck ? ..... red warning flags are all over this for those who will at least take the time and take notice.
620 posted on 12/15/2010 5:48:35 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: jamese777

Dead wrong. Thus far judges have all ruled that nobody who has filed has standing to even get the issue on the table.

Please don’t continue to claim that any judge has actually ruled on the actual eligibility of Barack Obama.

And the evidence that you mentioned is flawed because

1) Hawaii officials have not and CAN NOT say that Obama was born in Hawaii, because what they have for Obama - per their own statutory admission - is amended and has no probative value unless and until it is presented as evidence, which Obama will not allow to be done.

Furthermore, Hawaii officials have hid rules and disobeyed rules and laws on Obama’s behalf, so calling them the “loyal opposition” is disingenuous. “Partners in crime” would be much more accurate.

2) The birth announcements are fake. The microfilms were changed out in the libraries.

3) Kapiolani Hospital says they can’t say whether Obama was born there. Obama has signed a statement with raised seal saying he was born there but won’t tell anybody whether it is genuine or a forgery by Abercrombie.


742 posted on 12/15/2010 12:43:45 PM PST by butterdezillion
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