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To: Smokeyblue
Per AP:

“Hawaiian officials say they have records proving Obama was born there and is therefore eligible to be president. But so-called birthers challenge that.”

Wow! This is the first time that I can recall an MSM report on the BC that did not frame the legitimacy of the HI COLB as factual and “birther” claims as “debunked by non-partisan Factcheck”.

I regard this as very significant. This AP report follows the usually MSM-abandoned journalistic principle of reporting the facts. AP reports that Hawaiian officials only “say” but AP does not affirm as a fact that HI have proved they have the records. AP reports that “birthers” “challenge” that without framing them as nuts.

Perhaps LTC Lakin got the AP reporter to read his brief and maybe pull back on knee-jerk affirmation of Obama’s eligibility. Perhaps this is further sign that Obama's protection is coming down and with the GOP taking over the House subpoena power, AP may be distancing themselves from the HI claims as a precautionary measure, lest they be proved to be unsupported by the "original vital records."

13 posted on 12/14/2010 9:53:14 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: LucyT; STARWISE; butterdezillion; Danae; little jeremiah

ping...

AP backs off pro-Obama/birther-bashing framing?


16 posted on 12/14/2010 9:54:55 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

AP is dead wrong on this though. Hawaii officials CANNOT say they have records proving where Obama was born, because the BC that Hawaii has is not legally valid. The State itself is forbidden to say what the facts of Obama’s birth are, because they have no records that they trust to be accurate - according to HRS 338-17.

The word that Fukino used was “verifying”. She has seen the vital records VERIFYING that Obama was born in HI. The word “verify” means to swear. There is a record in Hawaii swearing that Obama was born in Hawaii. To PROVE is something totally different, though it’s understandable that the AP would make this mistake. They should correct it though.


20 posted on 12/14/2010 10:00:15 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Seizethecarp

“Hawaiian officials say they have records proving Obama was born there and is therefore eligible to be president. But so-called birthers challenge that.”


You mean that invalid COLB verified by factcheck.org? They are being called out, and the HDOH is running for cover. More at the link below...

http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/


55 posted on 12/14/2010 10:52:20 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Seizethecarp

“Hawaiian officials say they have records proving Obama was born there and is therefore eligible to be president. But so-called birthers challenge that.”


You mean that invalid COLB verified by factcheck.org? They are being called out, and the HDOH is running for cover. More at the link below...

http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/


56 posted on 12/14/2010 10:52:34 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Seizethecarp

Funny that you should mention that. I had noted the other day that a few comedian type stations had jumped on the band wagon. SNL and jay Leno .. Leno said things were so bad for Obama that democrats were now asking to see his birth certificate. SNL ended a “presidential” skit with the Obama look alike saying he thought he was from America, but after seeing his birth certificate he wasn’t so sure or something to that nature.

I found that telling as well, considering our nation is too busy to get real news, ask real questions and only interested in comedy. I think a lot of people get their views from these shows. For them to jump on the bandwagon bodes ill for Obama.


176 posted on 12/14/2010 12:41:51 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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