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To: Darkwolf377

Poor logic on your part.

It’s a LOT easier to prevent a mother from killing her born infant, than preventing her from somehow ending a pregnancy. That’s why very country I know of prevents parents from abusing or killing their (born) kids.

Again, I’m all for leaving the pro-life plank in the GOP platform, but to really change the USA into a pro-life country will take a change of heart, of opinion, not just 5/4s of the Supreme Court. I support making abortion illegal—just that should not be the highest priority of all, as a fascist government is far more dangerous to all of us. Don’t forget, in Romania abortion was illegal—and it was under a nightmare dictatorship too. Get rid of dictatorial government first, then we can work on ridding America of abortionists.


140 posted on 11/15/2010 2:18:57 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns; Darkwolf377

Abortion was illegal in Romania???? Romania when under the domination of the USSR had one of the highest, if not THE highest, abortion rate in Europe.


148 posted on 11/15/2010 2:49:16 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: AnalogReigns

Yes abortion is murder, but, its murder done in someone else's family, not mine 

If ever I've heard a more morally depraved and socially ignorant comment in a long time; I can't remember when
 
IBTZ, troll.


151 posted on 11/15/2010 3:05:40 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: AnalogReigns; wagglebee
Poor logic on your part. It’s a LOT easier to prevent a mother from killing her born infant, than preventing her from somehow ending a pregnancy. That’s why very country I know of prevents parents from abusing or killing their (born) kids.

So you create laws based not on the morality or ethics of the situation, but by ease of enforcement?

Labelling something as demonstrating "poor logic" is a poor tactic, btw. If you have the facts and logic, you don't need to try to label the other position--simply describe it.

You just described a good law as one that's easy to enforce. By your "logic" we shouldn't have any laws--no effort required at all to enforce them.

The poor logic, sad to say, is your own because your position was that we can't police abortions effectively--THAT is the basis of your dream system. So when someone takes YOUR proposition to the next step, it indeed does reveal the poor logic of the original position.

Ask not for whom the bell of illogic tolls; it tolls for thee.

Again, I’m all for leaving the pro-life plank in the GOP platform, but to really change the USA into a pro-life country will take a change of heart, of opinion, not just 5/4s of the Supreme Court.

Of course it will take a change of heart, etc. According to some polls I've seen on the subject, young people are more pro-life now than ever in my lifetime. Not conclusive by any means, but surely you'd agree an indicator that the war for hearts and minds is being won?

http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2010/01/28/Marist-Poll-56-percent-against-abortion/UPI-79971264662086/

http://www.gallup.com/poll/118399/More-Americans-Pro-Life-Than-Pro-Choice-First-Time.aspx

The headline for the Gallup survey: More Americans “Pro-Life” Than “Pro-Choice” for First Time

So I guess being in the majority for the first time means we should...stop enforcing that pro-life plank, and just ignore it.

Why?

I support making abortion illegal—just that should not be the highest priority of all, as a fascist government is far more dangerous to all of us. Don’t forget, in Romania abortion was illegal—and it was under a nightmare dictatorship too. Get rid of dictatorial government first, then we can work on ridding America of abortionists.

I guess we should just stop enforcing laws involving murder, theft, drunk driving, illegal immigration--none of which are more important than having a fascist government, right? We should just stop everything until we get rid of Obama in 2012--and then we can talk about abortion.

Except, we won't. And if you're honest, you'll admit that. Because in 2012, the democrats aren't going to be gone. Obama may win re-election, but even if not, there will be democrats in DC, and laws still on the books. Well, gotta get rid of those, too, and folks like you will be saying 'OK, we're making progress, can't divide the coalition NOW.'

And then in the midterms, who knows what'll happen--will it THEN be time, a few million dead later, to stop worrying about the tender sensibilities of social liberals?

P.S. I'm not really sure what kind of point you're trying to make about Romania. Under Ceausecue abortion was criminalized from 1966 until 1989. During those years, in a population in the 20 million area, abortions ranged from a low of 182,000 (1987) to a high of 468,000 (1982), so they were never ended by the government. So I don't understand the point you're trying to make there.

163 posted on 11/15/2010 11:58:50 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ( Mm, your tears are so yummy and sweet!Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness! Mm-yummy! --E. Cartman)
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