Posted on 11/13/2010 6:59:02 AM PST by mandaladon
The recent border dispute between Costa Rica and Nicaragua is a sign of an ambitious plan by Venezuela, Iran and Nicaragua to create a "Nicaragua Canal" linking the Atlantic and Pacific oceans that would rival the existing Panama Canal.
Costa Rica says that last week Nicaraguan troops entered its territory along the San Juan River the border between the two nations. Nicaragua had been conducting channel deepening work on the river when the incident occurred. Sources in Latin America have told Haaretz that the border incident and the military pressure on Costa Rica, a country without an army, are the first step in a plan formulated by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega, with funding and assistance from Iran, to create a substitute for the strategically and economically important Panama Canal.
The plan has aroused concern in Washington, and the U.S. has started behind the scenes efforts to foil it.
(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...
Thanks..will it accomodate the US CVNs and the largest container ships?
Building this canal would easier than the Panama canal since it would be using the San Juan river and it would be at sea level. Check out the map.
According to Null and Void, above, no.
My granddaughter lives in Costa Ricathey are very upset about this and realize that because they have no army, they are going to have to depend upon the kindness of others to stop the Nicaraguans.
As a side note, Nicaraguans are despised by Ticos. If someone is living like a bum or commits petty crime, they are automatically Nicaraguans.
I have read that there are all kinds of problems that go along with the building of a sea-level canal. One is that the tides of the Caribbean and the Pacific are different thus causing a current in the canal. Another problem is Pacific flora and fauna being introduced into the Atlantic and vice versa. Doubt if Venezuela, Iran and Nicaragua are going to issue an environmental impact study.
Seems silly..though I don’t know what the engireering parfameters are. But it you’re gonna build a new canal..you’d want to be able to handle the huge new container ships...they’d be willing to pay a fortune in transit fees..also, re the border ncident and the river, I recall reading somewheres that the PC expansion had to be redesigned..( the locks) because there isn’t enough water in Gatun lake to handle everything..
It seems to me that someone should ping you to this thread...
Not to worry, I'm sure obama will oppose Amadinajhad and Chavéz...
Unless you’re willing to take the financial hit to exclude supercarriers.
Governments come and go so we have no idea who will hate us and who will like us in 30 years. Having a second canal, despite the environmental issues, sounds like a good idea. As Americans, we should be wary of any monopolies, such as now exists with Panama.
Pros:
1. A new canal may be able to accommodate giant ships and our aircraft carriers.
2. The new canal may not need locks, which will speed up transport.
3. Competition with Panama will lower prices.
4. Someone else is building it, which complies with Carter’s promise to the Panamanians that we would not be involved with building a competing canal.
5. Someone else is paying for it.
They're like the dwarfs in the Lord of the Rings movies, only less loyal and industrious. And not as well animated.
Some where in my stuff I have a map of a US Navy study of a canal via Nicaragua made many years ago.
Talk and maps are cheap. Ability and action are costly
Neither Venezuela nor Iran are maritime nations
Some where in my stuff I have a map of a US Navy study of a canal via Nicaragua made many years ago.
Talk and maps are cheap. Ability and action are costly
Neither Venezuela nor Iran are maritime nations
Iran doesn't have the ability to supply a combat force outside of its borders. Neither does Chavez.
Uhhhh....no.....they don't own it.
Correct. Control both ends of.
If it were that easy, the first canal would have been built there.
Hi, null and void. Good to hear from you.
The huge mistake/lie I found in this article was the following:
The transit fees paid by the ships and other canal-related activities account for 75 percent of the annual revenues of Panama’s economy.
All the fees the Canal makes is plowed right back into the Canal for maintenance, purchase new expensive equipment, etc.
The Canal is expensive to run and maintain. Not one penny goes outside of it. We Americans are also surprised there is no graft.
I had a good laugh when I got into the article: Venezuela, Iran, and Nicaragua and Mr. Pastora are going to make this happen. With what money? Building canals and maintaining them do not come cheap.
A Freeper above got it right about the tides. Because of the Bay of Panama, the tides on the Pacific side run a great deal higher and lower than the ties on the Atlanic side which are just a matter of 3 feet or so on the Atlantic. (I am not familiar with the tides in Nicaragua and Costa Rica or what kind of bays they have if any .I just havent studied it. We couldnt have just cut through the cordillera making it a sea level canal. Further, even then, seawater running down the middle of the country would have been a disaster.
Even when they started to build the Canal, no plan was yet in place whether it was going to be sea level or otherwise.
Panama does not have a standing army either. But I promise you, if anybody from the outside looks at the Panama Canal with hungry eyes, the U.S. will on them like white on rice.
Forgive me if you find errors in my post. I just havent been feeling well for several days.
My best to you.
P.S.
If I find some articles about this on the Panama side, I will share them with you.
That’s a pretty racist comment. Not everyone is the same.
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