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Cruise passengers endured stench, cold food
AP/YahooNews ^ | 11/12/10 | ELLIOTT SPAGAT and JULIE WATSON

Posted on 11/12/2010 9:45:32 AM PST by Kartographer

Their ship lost power after an engine fire Monday and was adrift about 200 miles outside San Diego and 44 miles off the coast of Mexico.

At that distance from land, it was out of cell phone range for much of the ordeal. The fire left the ship without air conditioning, hot water or hot food. The casino was closed and, for a time, so were the bars. The swimming pool was off-limits because the pumps wouldn't work.

Mark and Ginger Kalin and their 9-year-old daughter Parker were on the cruise as part of a magicians' convention.

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To: Kartographer

At least these people now know what it would be like to live under a socialist government.


41 posted on 11/12/2010 10:22:02 AM PST by mtg
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To: stormer

“their pants”


42 posted on 11/12/2010 10:22:24 AM PST by stormer
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To: Kartographer
Oh waaaah!
43 posted on 11/12/2010 10:23:43 AM PST by Chuckster
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To: Kartographer

Been there, done that. Sitting DIW with no hotel services is not much fun. If there’s no electricity at all, it’s stuffy and dangerous to move around, too. At that time it dawns on you, “Hey, I’m living in the middle of a metal box and the nearest land is over the horizon.” It’s an easy thing to forget.


44 posted on 11/12/2010 10:24:29 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: stormer

“Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They’re a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working.

“But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty Klingon.”

Quark from: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)” (1998)


45 posted on 11/12/2010 10:26:20 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: dead
"Oh, and do your business over the side of the boat next time your toilet isn't working. Why keep filling it up just to spoon it out?"

I was thinking the same thing as I watched the video of the glistening white ship being towed back to the dock. Not a single brown streak down the side. Nobody had the sense to bail out their backed up commode.

46 posted on 11/12/2010 10:26:51 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Kartographer

They’re probably shopping around for a Lifetime movie of the week as we type.


47 posted on 11/12/2010 10:28:06 AM PST by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: Dumpster Baby

Those photos make good arguments for why gays shouldn’t be there.


48 posted on 11/12/2010 10:29:36 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan

Deer Camp

Mike

49 posted on 11/12/2010 10:30:49 AM PST by MichaelP (It's a start!!!)
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To: TNCMAXQ
I can’t believe these ships don’t have some kind of back up power supply.


50 posted on 11/12/2010 10:32:26 AM PST by dfwgator (Texas Rangers -Thanks for a great season.)
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To: MediaMole

They got their money back AND a voucher for another cruise. So their “trip of a lifetime” was hardly ruined. They need to quit whining and thank their lucky stars things didn’t turn out MUCH worse!


51 posted on 11/12/2010 10:32:35 AM PST by GatorGirl (Eschew Socialism!)
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To: Kartographer
Some people think I'm crazy because I have no desire to get on a cruise ship or even leave the continental 48 states for reasons just like this. Giving up control of your own well-being is not a risk I am willing to take. The benefit is not great enough.
52 posted on 11/12/2010 10:35:59 AM PST by Niteranger68
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To: dead
I'll bet a few passengers were scouting about for who to eat first.

I don't wait long.

Thirty five minutes is my max.

53 posted on 11/12/2010 10:40:38 AM PST by Lazamataz (Pelosi: Like a rapist, PROUD of their handiwork.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
would they have been rescued if it had been a mime convention cruise?

No. Nobody would have heard their cries for help.

54 posted on 11/12/2010 10:43:18 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

First Sailor Still no sign of land ... how long is it?
Second Sailor Thirty-three days, sir.
First Sailor Thirty-three days?
Second Sailor Yes. We can’t go hold out much longer, sir. We haven’t had any food since the fifth day.
Third Sailor We’re done for, we’re done for!
First Sailor Shut up, Maudling. We’ve just got to keep hoping someone will find us.
Fourth Sailor How are you feeling, captain?
Fifth Sailor Not too good ... I ... feel ... so weak.
Second Sailor We can’t hold out much longer.
Fifth Sailor Listen ... chaps ... there’s one last chance. I’m done for, I’ve got a gammy leg, I’m going fast, I’ll never get through ... but ... some of you might ... so you’d better eat me.
First Sailor Eat you, sir?
Fifth Sailor Yes. Eat me.
Second Sailor Uuuuggghhh! With a gammy leg?
Fifth Sailor You don’t have to eat the leg, Thompson, there’s still plenty of good meat ... look at that arm.
Third Sailor It’s not just the leg, sir.
Fifth Sailor What do you mean?
Third Sailor Well, sir ... it’s just that ...
Fifth Sailor Why don’t you want to eat me?
Third Sailor I’d rather eat Johnson, sir. (he points at fourth sailor)
Second Sailor Oh, so would I, sir.
Fifth Sailor I see.
Fourth Sailor Well, that’s settled then. Everyone eats me.
First Sailor Well ... I ... er ...
Third Sailor What, sir?
First Sailor No, no, you go ahead, I won’t ...
Fourth Sailor Nonsense, nonsense, sir, you’re starving. Tuck in!
First Sailor No, no, it’s not just that ...
Second Sailor What’s the matter with Johnson, sir?
First Sailor Well, he’s not kosher.
Third Sailor That depends how we kill him, sir.
First Sailor Yes, yes, I see that ... well to be quite frank, I like my meat a little more lean. I’d rather eat Hodges.
Second Sailor (cheerfully) Oh well ... all right.
Third Sailor No, I’d still prefer Johnson.
Fifth Sailor I wish you’d all stop bickering and eat me.
Second Sailor Look! I’ll tell you what. Why don’t those of us who want to, eat Johnson, then you, sir, can eat my leg and then we’ll make a stock of the Captain and then after that we can eat the rest of Johnson cold for supper.
First Sailor Good thinking, Hodges.
Fourth Sailor And we’ll finnish off with the peaches. (picks up a tin of peaches)
Third Sailor And we can start off with the advocados. (picks up a two advocados)
First Sailor Waitress! (a waitress walks in) We’ve decided now, we’re going to have leg of Hodges ...


55 posted on 11/12/2010 10:45:58 AM PST by dfwgator (Texas Rangers -Thanks for a great season.)
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To: Mr. K
No backup generators on board????

Yea every ship has them but they are designed for limited use. It would take a HUGE back up generator to power the HVAC system. One as big as the main generators itself. Emergency generators on ships are mainly used to get the ship back operational when the main one fails. They are designed to run lights and firemain pumps for the most part plus the machinery needed to get the main engine back on line again. The HVAC system is the biggest consumer of electricity on most ships. In a loss of power sense it is not a priority.

Another thing to consider as well is the fire may have taken out an electrial switchboard or two which requires work arounds and likely leaves part of the ship with no power at all. I've seen what happens when a ship looses a switchboard first hand. We had 5 more but still we lost useage of one of four boiler rooms among other things.

56 posted on 11/12/2010 10:45:58 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Lazamataz

We have Spam with PopTarts; Spam with Eggo’s and Spam with
Spam!


57 posted on 11/12/2010 10:46:09 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: MediaMole
I agree wholeheartedly with you on this. They were not in the service, did not intend to have a crappy vacation and probably had a limited time to take the vacation.

I would have been upset also and I know a lot of you who are telling them to man up would also have been upset if you had paid for one thing and gotten a completely opposite experience.

Maybe you should put yourself in their shoes before you spout off with the so called advice.

58 posted on 11/12/2010 10:53:52 AM PST by GrandmaPatriot
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To: Kartographer
No air-conditioning, stench, cold food, no hot water, no bar, no casino, etc. ....

WTH do they think our troops live in in Afghanistan 24 - 7 365, the RITZ Carlton? And they can't tolerate it for a few days? Wusses!

59 posted on 11/12/2010 11:13:34 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: GrandmaPatriot
I agree wholeheartedly with you on this. They were not in the service, did not intend to have a crappy vacation and probably had a limited time to take the vacation.

Then my advice to them is next time don't take a ship. There is no such thing as a ship without mechanical failures or worse shipboard fires. The crews knowledge and skills likely saved many lives and NO ONE got seriously hurt. That speaks well for the skills of the ships crew. It could have been far worse and I know what I'm talking about on this matter.

As long as ships go to sea military or pleasure there will be dangers like fires. It doesn't mean someone sets them but rather even the best top of the line and well maintained equipment can fail. When fire happens on a ship {any fire} it is very serious until it is put out. You can't run to the neighbors down the street and help isn't coming. You put it out or it kills you. No other options usually. The fire must be put out by the crew and ship fires are different in nature and how you deal with them than fires on land.

All in all I think the company has given them a fair deal. People need to remember we do not live in a failsafe world. Things happen sometime beyond any ones control. The crew got the passengers back to shore safely under extreme adverse conditions. Inconvenience for the passengers? Yea no denying that. That's life.

60 posted on 11/12/2010 11:18:53 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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