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62 letter from father ignores Obama, mom
www.wnd.com ^ | 11/09/2010 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 11/09/2010 6:15:44 PM PST by rxsid

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To: ClearCase_guy

Officially, they were married and divorced, but I believe a lot of people think that this marriage never took place.


As nearly as I can determine, no marriage certificate has ever been found, ....... only that Stanley stated in the divorce petition that they were once married.

Shouldn’t the cert be in the Hawaiian records

and public record?

Yet it cannot be found.

Perhaps to make up a COLB, forged, it was added at that time but it, like the long form birth certificate, CANNOT be found.

Am I correct in this?


101 posted on 11/09/2010 11:54:52 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: smokingfrog; Danae
"I’m curious why box 59 is closed?"

Indeed, a good question!

After-all, they do talk about letters. Something in there that would break open the damn?

102 posted on 11/10/2010 12:04:34 AM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Red Steel

The legend is that on February 2, 1961, against Madelyn’s hopes, and against the desires of Obama’s father back in Kenya, Ann, three months pregnant, and Obama hopped a plane to Maui and got married. The wedding had no witnesses, not even her parents, and no record of the event has yet been found.

Obama, himself, hints that his father and mother’s wedding may not have been properly documented. “How and when the marriage occurred remains a bit murky, a bill of particulars that I have never quite had the courage to explore. There’s no record of a real wedding, a cake, a ring, a giving away of the bride. No families were in attendance; it’s not even clear that people back in Kansas were informed.” Obama writes in his memoir.

The lack of any documentary evidence, when such evidence for legal marriages that took place in Hawaii during 1961 is readily available today to any inquiring family member, strongly suggests that Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Senior were not ever legally married and that Senior, a married man of 25, almost certainly impregnated the 17-year-old Dunham, since nine months before Obama’s birth would be early November 1960, about three to four weeks before Ann Dunham’s 18th birthday on November 29, 1960.

And this, Michelle Obama says that Senior and Anna were never married. She described Anna as “very young and very single when she had him (Obama).”

And this — There is no evidence whatsoever that Senior and Anna ever lived together anywhere, any time. The living arrangements between the announcement of the wedding and the birth of the child were uncertain. Most likely, Senior remained in his dorm room while Ann lived with her parents.

Letters written by acquaintances of Senior during the period 1960-1961 with accompanying photographs do not mention or show Anna at all.


103 posted on 11/10/2010 12:14:47 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: smokingfrog

Correspondence, writings, reports, bulletins, serial issues, clippings, photographs, sound recordings, video tapes, and motion picture film, relating to American relations with Africa, the political and economic development of Kenya and other African countries, assistance to African students in the United States, and especially to the Kenyan political leader Tom Mboya. Includes correspondence with, writings by, and interviews of, Mboya.
Extent 56 manuscript boxes, 3 oversize boxes, 1 framed poster. (26 linear feet)
RestrictionsFor copyright status, please contact the Hoover Institution Archives.

Availability Box 59 is closed.

The remainder of the collection is open for research

Closed? Why?


104 posted on 11/10/2010 12:19:47 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: rxsid; Jim Robinson; Red Steel; pissant; 2ndDivisionVet; American Constitutionalist

The Koran says that the fate of a nation does not change unless the people decide to change it.

Obama addressing Muslims in Indonesia:

“Change will not come if we wait for someone else or another time. It is we who have been waiting for it. We are the change we seek. “


105 posted on 11/10/2010 12:52:38 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Danae
Yes, that's what is expected of this Coconut Coup and Administration.


106 posted on 11/10/2010 1:07:37 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: bushpilot1

Yes, a Muslim CocoNUT


107 posted on 11/10/2010 1:10:05 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: rxsid

Mrkd


108 posted on 11/10/2010 2:10:20 AM PST by KarenMarie (NEVER believe anything coming out of DC until it's been denied.)
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To: Red Steel; jamese777; rxsid

“If and when an actual 21st Century court of law (at any level of the judiciary from a magistrate court to the Supreme Court of the United States) rules that Vattel has historical constitutional relevance, I’ll be won over to your side. Until then...not so much.” jamese777

“E. de Vattel, The Law of Nations, Preliminaries §3 (J. Chitty et al. transl. and ed. 1883) (hereinafter Vattel)”

For two centuries we have affirmed that the domes-tic law of the United States recognizes the law of nations. page 35

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/03pdf/03-339.pdf


109 posted on 11/10/2010 2:22:06 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: butterdezillion
...the father signed an acknowledgement of paternity,

That was the purpose of Seniors 1971 Christmas visit.

Anna had just brought Barry to Honolulu from Jakarta. Grandfather Stanley had lined-up a scholarship to the prestigious Punahou School for Barry. The Dunhams moved into the apartment at S. Beretania St., to be within walking distance of the school -- and out of the blue comes the self-described "rake," Obama Senior -- the purpose of the trip? -- "to attend to family business"

The Dunhams paid for an apartment in their building for the month that Senior was in town, and were undoubtedly providing him with some walking-around money. The sad truth is Senior spent most of his time partying with with his old snack bar buddies from the University of Hawaii, Neil Abercrombie and Pake Zane.

So, out of the blue, Barry's long-lost father stepped briefly into his life, and just as quickly disappeared. Obama and Senior would never see each other again. It was not an easy month, and what stuck in the boy's memory was the basketball that Senior gave him as a present at the airport.

After the visit, Anna and Obama's half-sister Maya returned to Indonesia. Except for occasional visits to Hawaii, and in her final days, Anna, who traveled throughout Southeast Asia on business, would remain based in Jakarta for the remainder of her life.

Now, here's the mystery. Why would Senior fly halfway across the world to make his only visit to his son at this moment in time? Remember, this was in the era before the deregulation of the airlines. Round-trip airplane tickets from Kenya to Hawaii must have cost a small fortune even by American standards -- much less third-world Kenyan standards.

Senior had no money. He had already fallen into disfavor with the ruling Kenyan government. His mentor and protector, Tom Mboya, was assassinated in 1969. Senior was present at the assassination and testified at the subsequent trial, essentially ending his political career, and causing a hit and run attempt on his life. He was spending most of his time drinking scotch and crashing his Mercedes-Benz.

It is clear that the Dunhams underwrote Senior's visit, but why? It would seem reasonable to conclude that Senior's pilgrimage had something to do with Barry and Punahou, but what?

What happened in these four weeks? What was so important that caused Senior to travel 20,000-plus miles? What kind of deal was made? What papers did he have to sign? Was there a payoff?

The Dunhams were getting ready to put Barry Soetoro into Punahou. Whatever Senior was doing in Hawaii was connected to that -- my speculation is that it was to establish or re-establish paternity -- and as soon as the paperwork was completed and he got his payoff he returned to Kenya and never thought about the bunch of them for the rest of his miserable life.

As an aside, it's pretty clear that the Dunhams were going all the way for little Barry, and it's equally clear that Senior couldn't give a rat's ass.

Obama Sr.

110 posted on 11/10/2010 2:52:40 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: smokingfrog

Closed to make BhO wonder what they are holding?


111 posted on 11/10/2010 3:13:59 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: STARWISE; maggief; onyx; Liz; SE Mom; penelopesire

RE box 59:
Settin up da sting...Where is Sandy D’Burglar when ya need him?


112 posted on 11/10/2010 3:57:00 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: smokingfrog
"Couldn’t have been legally married in the US if he had a wife in Kenya, could he?"

Many Muslim male students marry American women while having one or more wives "back in the home country". Which the Americans usually only find out about when they accompany hubby home to find out that they are the "junior wife" and pretty much a slave to the other wives. Muslims LIE, it's what they do. It's a part of their religion.

113 posted on 11/10/2010 4:09:23 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: happyathome

“Methinks the recent tour of the Third World by disaffected former CIA types is bearing its first fruit. “


That thought did cross my mind too. If so, then keep it up.


114 posted on 11/10/2010 4:10:39 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: rxsid

I have always thought the secret on his birth certificate is the fact that his parents weren’t married and he was listed as illegitimate. Hardly would cause anyone to raise an eyebrow these days but back in the 60’s a young white girl giving birth to an illegitimate biracial baby would have been a scandal.


115 posted on 11/10/2010 5:09:40 AM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: CFIIIMEIATP737

You are looking at this through with a 2010 perspective. In the 1960’s it would have been a scandal for a young white woman to have am illegitimate biracial baby. In one of his books he tells of finding his BC and IIRC something on it surprised him. I have long said I thought the secret on the BC is that he is listed as illegitimate.
Sure he was dreaming of a father, because he had no clue who it was.


116 posted on 11/10/2010 5:21:27 AM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Beckwith

Yeah, it sure seems something was going on then. I wonder if a legal name change upon establishment of paternity would be handled like an adoption, where it’s all private and sealed. The Lt Gov’s office twice told me that they have no legal name change order for Obama.

What makes it so hard is that we have no idea what documents are genuine and what government statements are accurate. There’s the whole mess with Obama/Soebarka (sp?)being adopted by Lolo. Was the Soebarka mention on the passport application for the passport Ann used when she brought Barry to HI?

Could a person be adopted in Indonesia without any record of it being sent back to Hawaii?

If the Obama name wasn’t used for Barry until 1971, then Barry would have had to be using Dunham as the last name in the Hawaii records, if there were any.


117 posted on 11/10/2010 5:43:51 AM PST by butterdezillion (.)
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To: mo; rxsid

So SAD is his sister and her daughter his niece, hmmm???

Hard to comprehend, but with this usurper’s “bio” the un-comprehensible becomes more and more confusing!!!


118 posted on 11/10/2010 6:31:02 AM PST by danamco (")
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To: danamco

‘bout as believable as anything else about him, isn’t it?


119 posted on 11/10/2010 6:36:24 AM PST by mo
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To: happyathome
Methinks the recent tour of the Third World by disaffected former CIA types is bearing its first fruit. If they find stuff they’re smart/devious enough to find journalists who will publicize it.

I fully anticipate in the next few months a sudden resignation, probably "for health reasons" or possibly "the good of the party." It most likely won't clearly be attributable to the eligibility issue but the ruling class needs Obama offstage before the 2012 presidential campaign season gets serious next year.

120 posted on 11/10/2010 6:54:01 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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