These are the Disputed Islands betweem Japan and Russia. China would love to get their hands on Siberia because of its mineral wealth.
Posted on 11/03/2010 2:01:44 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
The military dimension of Sino-Russian ties, particularly arms sales, has been deteriorating since 2006-07. While that decline partly reflects the growing prowess of China's defense industrial base, a major part stems from Russia's growing apprehension about China's growing capabilities and anger over its wholesale piracy of Russian weapons' designs and ensuing competition with Russia for third party markets in Asia, Africa and Latin America. The unlicensed copying of military arms has made China a formidable military player and a redoubtable competitor with Russia in emerging defense markets. For instance, Russian experts profess surprise at how fast China has been able to copy the SU-27UBK (The Times of London, September 9, 2009). The combined effects of this mounting, albeit suppressed Russian anxiety (that is by the political leadership) about China's improved military capabilities and anger about its unceasing piracy has apparently spilled-over to the public sphere.
When General Guo Boxiong, vice chairman of the Central Military Commission (CMC) met in Moscow in late 2009 with his Russian counterparts, no substantial military technology cooperation agreement reportedly ensued form those discussions. Russian sources claimed that they were surprised by China's positions, charging Russia with failure to abide by several bilateral military technology agreements with China. They replied that Russia could not sell China the engines for the Ilyushin-76 transport because the production facility in Uzbekistan lost its production capability. Chinese statements that Beijing would work directly with Uzbekistan meant that Russia would have to inject new investment into the Tashkent Aircraft Company of Uzbekistan, which was impossible.
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As much as Russia has flustered ad blustered about us, it has far, far more to worry about from China.
Russia is resource-loaded. China is starving for resources.
Russia has what? 200 million now? I think China has a few cities that large!
Russia is one of the grain-baskets of the world. China has the will, the organization, and the labor to utilize and expand it.
The Russian and Chinese hatred runs deep.Much of it was due to border disputes and ideology. Premier Khrushchev insulted Chairman Mao Zedong as “a nationalist, an adventurist, and a deviationist”. In turn, Mao insulted Khrushchev as a Marxist revisionist, criticizing him as “patriarchal, arbitrary and tyrannical”. In follow-up, Khrushchev denounced China with an eighty-page letter to the conference. Khrushchev withdrew all of his techical advisors from China and a lot of projects were not finished.
The Russian and Chinese hatred runs deep.Much of it was due to border disputes and ideology. Premier Khrushchev insulted Chairman Mao Zedong as “a nationalist, an adventurist, and a deviationist”. In turn, Mao insulted Khrushchev as a Marxist revisionist, criticizing him as “patriarchal, arbitrary and tyrannical”. In follow-up, Khrushchev denounced China with an eighty-page letter to the conference. Khrushchev withdrew all of his techical advisors from China and a lot of projects were not finished.
You must remember in 1969, the Soviets and the Chinese exchanged fire on several occasions
I know there has been long running disputes about ownership/control of some of the islands and areas around the Kamchatka peninsula.
Also, IIRC, China/Russia share one of the longest borders in the world, with a huge variety of cultural/ethnic mixes almost the whole way.
At the end of WWII,the Soviet Union fufilling its promise at Yalta invaded Japan taking several islands in the Kuril Chain.Japan, as well as the United States, claimed that the Yalta agreement did not apply to the Northern Territories because they were not a part of the Kuril Islands, although U.S. geographers have traditionally listed them as part of the Kuril chain.
Krhuschev to Mao: You must tighten your belts!
Mao to Khruschev: Please send belts!
Back in the Mao/Stalin days, the former USSR once primarily exported manufactured goods to China and China, exported primarily natural resources to the former USSR.
The roles are reversed now. And they should be. China has nearly 10 times the population as Russia, yet occupies a land mass that is half the size of the Russian land mass.
This will be the predominent trade dynamic that will exist between Russia and China for the foreseeable future. Maybe even for the remainder of the 21st Century.
chicom bump for later........
That’s nothing. Russia annexed large parts of China in the 19th century. Vladivostok, Khabarovsk and the northern Amur valley were all part of the Manchu-Chinese empire.
You are correct. The Japanese beat them back.
When Japanese tried to invade Russia in 1938 they were beaten back at the Battle of Khalkhyn Gol. The Russians beat them back under the leadership of Zhukov. That is why they signed a non agression pact with Stalin in 1940.
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