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To: Red Steel

Still Hawaii did not say or verify that they issued the Obama COLB published on the Internet at the DailyKos or at “FactCheck”.com is an authentic document or has not been altered.


If you can interest any prosecuting attorney in the nation in subpoenaing the original documents, then we could all know for sure.

Local, state, federal and the Supreme Court accept with defense legal briefs the state of Hawai’i’s verification statements as being authenticating of the facts of Obama’s birth.

For Immediate Release: July 27, 2009
STATEMENT BY HEALTH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records
maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai’i
and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”

When judges and justices read Dr. Fukino’s statement, they dismiss the lawsuit.


1,875 posted on 10/24/2010 2:32:28 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

Not true. The state requires such evidence to warrant issuing a certificate, but that doesn’t mean it’s always prima facie evidence.

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrs2008/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017.htm

Until we see a ‘Certificate’ not a ‘Certification’ and one that’s been ‘Accepted by the State’ we don’t really know anything.

There is one other certification of live birth that I have seen that said “date filed by’ and didn’t come from Polarik and it was filed 53 days after the Date of Birth, and the Hour of Birth said 6:00 pm like it was filed by affidavit.

Yet nothing on that ‘Certification’ indicated anything unusual and nothing was noted. Unfortunately I don’t know the origin of that ‘Certification’ either so I have to basically chalk it up to nothing concrete.


1,881 posted on 10/24/2010 2:41:24 PM PDT by MissTickly
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To: jamese777
When judges and justices read Dr. Fukino’s statement, they dismiss the lawsuit.

Doesn't mean Hawaii is still not lying.

Hawaii Officials Lie For Obama

1,883 posted on 10/24/2010 2:42:29 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: jamese777

The State of Hawaii has not verified anything. The statement is “original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State DOH verifying....”

The original vital records (plural) verify (swear) that Obama was born in Hawaii. Fukino herself verifies nothing. She specifically does NOT vouch for the legal status of what is “on file”.

And in fact, the responses I have gotten from the HDOH (regarding WHICH birth index the birth index records for Obama are taken from, since they have a separate index for delayed BC’s, Certificates of Hawaiian Birth, pending, etc) are Glomarized responses - showing that the HDOH is claiming that the legal status of the records they have is considered confidential.

IOW, when they say they have birth index data, according to their responses to me, they are making no claim regarding whether the records they have are legally valid. All they are saying is that they have a piece of paper somewhere in their office which has both the word “birth” and that person’s name. Period.


1,886 posted on 10/24/2010 2:46:41 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: jamese777

When judges and justices read Dr. Fukino’s statement, they dismiss the lawsuit.

What a bunch of horse manure! Now you know judges read and believe the same crap you do? First off give them some credit and second its not in evidence and can’t be considered. You really try and spin nothing into something...Have you made your donation yet?


1,938 posted on 10/24/2010 4:47:09 PM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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