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That's flat ridiculous. Take away slavery and leave all else the same and the South doesn't rebel. Leave slavery and take away every lame excuse for the rebellion you care to name and the South rebels. It's as simple as that.

Oh really.

First of all, to set the record straight, the Southern states seceded, formed the Confederate States of America and were promptly and illegally invaded by disHonest Abe. (you're not going to hijack this thread with your lies)

Secondly, the nation is as, or more, polarized today than in 1860 and a lot of that polarization is north and South (with the Rocky Mountain states leaning South and the left coast states leaning north.) Now, if the Southern states and her allies decide that enough is enough of this yankee socialism crap and secedes, are you gonna insist that slavery was the catalyst? If not, what would be your explanation for modern secession? Cut and run mentality?

If you adhere to that, then you must really despise the Cuban who gets in a rickety boat and sails 90 miles across open ocean to escape Fidel's socialist utopia. Blast the cowardly Cuban for cutting and running when he should stay and wait for change, right?

Go ahead, ns, dazzle us with your insight. /sarc

BTW, do you still prefer obama's politics to mine?

You know, it is really weird that it’s often the Southern states that have Right to Work laws. Northern-based Unions with their management bosses are ‘plantation’ owners themselves in practice.

First of all, to set the record straight, the Southern states seceded, formed the Confederate States of America and were promptly and illegally invaded by disHonest Abe.

If you wanted to set the record straight then you would admit that the confederacy seceded and then turned to war to further their aims. A war which they then proceeded to lose.

(you're not going to hijack this thread with your lies)

Nor will you. Not while I'm around.

Secondly, the nation is as, or more, polarized today than in 1860 and a lot of that polarization is north and South (with the Rocky Mountain states leaning South and the left coast states leaning north.) Now, if the Southern states and her allies decide that enough is enough of this yankee socialism crap and secedes, are you gonna insist that slavery was the catalyst? If not, what would be your explanation for modern secession? Cut and run mentality?

Secede first, then ask me that question.

If you adhere to that, then you must really despise the Cuban who gets in a rickety boat and sails 90 miles across open ocean to escape Fidel's socialist utopia. Blast the cowardly Cuban for cutting and running when he should stay and wait for change, right?

I admire them more than the ones who sit and bitch and moan and complain about how bad things are and how unjust things are and how someday, SOMEDAY, they're actually going to do something about it. People like you.

BTW, do you still prefer obama's politics to mine?

You're asking me if I prefer socialism or fascism. Can I say neither?

He or she continuously floods threads with non-sequiturs.

Now, if the Southern states and her allies decide that enough is enough of this yankee socialism crap and secedes, are you gonna insist that slavery was the catalyst? If not, what would be your explanation for modern secession? Cut and run mentality?

"Modern secession"?

I have this vision of some poor fella standing on the ledge of a tall building threatening to jump. They have to close the street below and traffic backs up for miles. Thousands of people are delayed and inconvenienced. If you're down on the sidewalk, you know you should move on and get something productive done, but somehow you can't help but watch the fella up on the ledge. Even though you know that the fella ain't gonna jump, you keep watching. At long last, negotiators are able to get the fella to try to get off the ledge, but now they have to put safety lines on the fella because, well, because now the fella has become terrified that he might fall from the ledge.

Let me know what I can do to help, buddy.