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Southern Shame, Southern Ghosts (CONFEDERATE FLAG BAN)
World Net Daily ^ | September 30, 2010 | Franklin Raff

Posted on 09/30/2010 3:55:02 AM PDT by golux

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To: All
What gets me is all these egalitarian south haters who don’t get where all of this ultimately goes.

Case in point:

OC district pushes pause on hip-hop curriculum [founding fathers called "old dead white men"]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2600199/posts

381 posted on 10/02/2010 7:34:16 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: golux; All
The University of Mississippi has terminated its mascot, "Colonel Reb." The mascot, an archetypal Southern gentleman with a hat, cane, and a little bow-tie.

I am posting rather late in this thread, but felt I should pay my respects to Colonel Reb. My father, an "Old Miss" graduate, graced every vehicle he owed with a decal of the Colonel. I'm glad he is not alive to see this.

Bye Bye Colonel Reb, you will be missed, along with too much of the beauty of the south trampled by ignorance.
382 posted on 10/02/2010 8:08:26 AM PDT by mstar
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To: wardaddy

Hey, WD! Thanks for gittin’ us all “roused up” this mornin’.
SO HERE’S ONE IN YOUR HONOR!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki1hUuK_68E
Duane Eddy - “Rebel Rouser”


383 posted on 10/02/2010 8:44:50 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: wardaddy; RebelTex

BTW, re “Rebel Rouser”. To Rebel Tex on the Texas Board goes the credit!


384 posted on 10/02/2010 8:51:20 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: beckysueb

“We even get insulted by our own.”

If I may correct you slightly; we get insulted by some who SAY they are our own. People can claim to be anybody, but some of the garbage that gets posted here under the ruse of personal connection to the South are just plain damn liars.


385 posted on 10/02/2010 9:37:08 AM PDT by jessduntno (9/24/10, FBI raids home of appropriately named AAAN leader Hatem Abudayyeh, a friend of Obama.)
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To: cowboyway
I've proven that you're just a Gutless Wonder, a spineless, gelatinous waste of human chromosomes.

You've also proven that your an ignorant blowhard. You're a very talented fellow.

Other than that, I'm not going to waste any more time with a trifling little coward like you.

I'll believe that when I see it.

386 posted on 10/02/2010 9:37:11 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Hey mo-joe! Here's another one for your collection.)
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To: jessduntno

So what was it when Lee sent some of his freed slaves to Liberia? Savage racism, sending them to die out of sight in an uninhabitable land?


387 posted on 10/02/2010 9:56:56 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: rockrr

jessduntno: You left out that psychotic general’s famous leeter;

Non-Sequitur: He had beeter quotes than that.

OK, no fair to be using secret code...;-)

Hahaha ... good one. I knew you were a man of leeters.


388 posted on 10/02/2010 10:01:04 AM PDT by jessduntno (9/24/10, FBI raids home of appropriately named AAAN leader Hatem Abudayyeh, a friend of Obama.)
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To: BnBlFlag
Thanks for the ping and for posting one of my favorite songs.

Great article. I've had some heated arguements with some of our Yankee FRiends over exactly the points mentioned in the article. For some of them, the 'War of Northern Agression', (the 'Civil War' as they call it) was ONLY about ending slavery and nothing else - sad, really.

FReegards,

Rebel Flag Texas Flag
RebelTex

389 posted on 10/02/2010 10:04:00 AM PDT by RebelTex (FREEDOM IS EVERYONE'S RIGHT! AND EVERYONE'S RESPONSIBILITY!)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
"So what was it when Lee sent some of his freed slaves to Liberia? Savage racism, sending them to die out of sight in an uninhabitable land?" As usual, you're ignorance of the nature of Lee the man and his family shows no bounds. They helped them do what they wished and in fact helped them to survive where many, many thousands died: They were free to go and they wanted to. Lee acquiesced. Quite different than wanting to send 'em whether they liked it or not. Or are you suggesting that he should have remained true to his concern that they would not do well there? Abe didn't give a shit, that's for sure;

Before the Civil War, Robert E. Lee freed most of his slaves and offered to pay expenses for those who wanted to go to Liberia. In November 1853, Lee's former slaves William and Rosabella Burke and their four children sailed on the Banshee, which left Baltimore with 261 emigrants. A person of superior intelligence and drive, Burke studied Latin and Greek at a newly established seminary in Monrovia and became a Presbyterian minister in 1857. He helped educate his own children and other members of his community and took several native children into his home. The Burkes's letters describing their lives in Liberia show that they relied on the Lees to convey messages to and from relatives still in Virginia, and the letters also reflect affection for their former masters.

Letters from the Burkes to Mary Custis Lee, wife of Robert E. Lee, were published in the 1859 edition of The African Repository with Mrs. Lee's permission. This letter from Mrs. Burke to Mrs. Lee demonstrates personal warmth between the two women. Mrs. Burke shows concern for Mrs. Lee's health, tells Mrs. Lee about her children, and asks about the Lee children. The "little Martha" referred to was Martha Custis Lee Burke, born in Liberia and named for one of the Lee family. Repeating her husband's enthusiasm for their new life, Rosabella Burke says, "I love Africa and would not exhange it for America."

Because the soil around Monrovia was poor and the coastal areas were covered in dense jungle, many early emigrants to Liberia moved up the nearby St. Paul's River, where they found land suitable for farming. There they established small communities of people from the same geographic region in America. This photograph gives an idea of the appearance of the countryside in which the settlers began their new lives.

In 1920, The American Colonization Society sent its first group of immigrants to Sherbro Island in Sierra Leone. The island's swampy, unhealthy conditions resulted in a high death rate among the settlers as well as the society's representatives. The British governor allowed the immigrants to relocate to a safer area temporarily while the ACS worked to save its colonization project from complete disaster.

390 posted on 10/02/2010 10:19:31 AM PDT by jessduntno (9/24/10, FBI raids home of appropriately named AAAN leader Hatem Abudayyeh, a friend of Obama.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
"So what was it when Lee sent some of his freed slaves to Liberia? Savage racism, sending them to die out of sight in an uninhabitable land?"

The "little Martha" referred to was Martha Custis Lee Burke, born in Liberia and named for one of the Lee family.

What do YOU think, genius, Stockholm syndrome?

1862 - The American president, Abraham Lincoln, extended official recognition to Liberia. See "The relations and duties of free colored men in America to Africa: A Letter to Charles B. Dunbar."

Abe jumps in when the Lees and many others had made the place somewhat habitable.

391 posted on 10/02/2010 10:30:38 AM PDT by jessduntno (9/24/10, FBI raids home of appropriately named AAAN leader Hatem Abudayyeh, a friend of Obama.)
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To: donmeaker
But 40 or 50 years ago, life was hell for decent well meaning folks who were not permitted to vote, to defend themselves, to attend proper schools, or to hold certain jobs for which they were otherwise qualified.

And things are so much better now, right. At least then, they were mostly growing up in intact families, not on drugs, and much less likely to die by violence.

We are also glad you are in your 60s.

Speak for yourself.

392 posted on 10/02/2010 10:37:09 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: jessduntno
Hahaha ... good one. I knew you were a man of leeters.

Obviously he went to beeter schools than we did.

393 posted on 10/02/2010 10:40:47 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Hey mo-joe! Here's another one for your collection.)
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To: RebelTex
the 'Civil War' as they call it

Actually we call it the War of Southern Rebellion.

394 posted on 10/02/2010 10:42:08 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Hey mo-joe! Here's another one for your collection.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
1865- 346 immigrants from Barbados joined the small number of African Americans coming to Liberia after the American Civil War. With overseas immigration slowing to a trickle, the Americo-Liberians (as the settlers and their descendents were starting to be called) depended on immigrants from nearby regions of Africa to increase the republic's population. The Americo-Liberians formed an elite and perpetuated a double-tiered social structure in which local African peoples could not achieve full participation in the nation's social, civic, and political life. The Americo-Liberians replicated many of the exclusions and social differentiations that had so limited their own lives in the United States.

Well, they had Abe as a role model. After they saw how the rape of the South was going, why not try to duplicate it?

395 posted on 10/02/2010 10:42:15 AM PDT by jessduntno (9/24/10, FBI raids home of appropriately named AAAN leader Hatem Abudayyeh, a friend of Obama.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“Obviously he went to beeter schools than we did.”

Beeter schools, perhaps, but that doesn’t matter to us go-geeters.


396 posted on 10/02/2010 10:44:10 AM PDT by jessduntno (9/24/10, FBI raids home of appropriately named AAAN leader Hatem Abudayyeh, a friend of Obama.)
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To: Walts Ice Pick
Personally I don't think modern southern secession is an issue, I think a nationwide cultural divide going to arms is more likely in the future.

There are so many forces at play who knows?

The BATS here are no doubt happy where the Left has taken us on race and minority anything but one day I fear that friction and the government Leviathan chewing up ALL our freedoms will cause bloodshed.

Confiscating guns or property rights, more and more taxes or unsecured borders in time would spark it. Obama and his minions have pushed all of this further along than any force I've yet witnessed.

It's scary how far we have collapsed so quickly. I genuinely fear my grandkids will see it and it will be just awful...a tribulation of Biblical proportion or folks may just move along and give up like machines.

Whites in particular are now so beat down and soft over guilt and the notion their entire history is a crime against humanity that they may just fade away and then those like the asshats here win. Some minorities will resist too...it's hard to say...the only ones who encourage me voting wise are Cubans and Vietnamese and Sikhs and a few TexMexicans...

this is why the politically correct so hate the South and rural folks too largely...we aren't going along in great numbers with their plan to remake America.

397 posted on 10/02/2010 10:44:29 AM PDT by wardaddy (the redress over anything minority is a cancer in our country...stage 4)
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To: Altura Ct.

I’m glad you see it too.


398 posted on 10/02/2010 10:45:30 AM PDT by wardaddy (the redress over anything minority is a cancer in our country...stage 4)
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To: LilAngel

South Carolina will be lucky to have you...some of our best politicians (and worst..lol) are there.


399 posted on 10/02/2010 10:47:06 AM PDT by wardaddy (the redress over anything minority is a cancer in our country...stage 4)
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To: jessduntno
I thought you said Africa was unihabitable. Now you're saying it was a good choice for Lee's former chattel. Make up your mind.

And it's debatable how much choice Lee's former slaves had. Once they were freed they had to go somewhere. Virginia law in place at the time, and which was incorporated in the 1850 constitution, mandated that any slave freed in Virginia had 12 months in which to leave the commonwealth or else be sold back into slavery.

400 posted on 10/02/2010 10:51:58 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Hey mo-joe! Here's another one for your collection.)
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