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Bullet Train for a 75 Mile Stretch????? Insanity!!!!!
http://pensacola.tenthamendmentcenter.com/ ^ | Tue, Sep 21, 2010 | Bonita Colley

Posted on 09/29/2010 4:35:58 PM PDT by B4Ranch

To find the reasons why we need high-speed rail, please visit my blog. We need to insist on HSR and defeat this attempt to shove rapid transit down our throats. Consider this: The United Nation’s Agenda 21 calls for permanently moving people from rural areas to cities. The U.N. wants nations to house people in controlled areas – cities with condos above office buildings and people riding bikes to work, not driving on streets and highways, etc. Rapid transit enables that.

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To: mnehring

Exactomundo!!!

+100!!!


21 posted on 09/29/2010 5:33:02 PM PDT by waterhill (Who got their elk? I did not............)
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To: Nick Danger

“I ask because it has been remarkably ineffective. Except for a few childless Yuppies, the flow has been entirely outward from cities. “

Really? Perhaps people have moved to the suburbs but certainly not to rural America.

Economic policies that have encouraged the corporate takeover of many formerly family owned farms. Policies that closed small manufacturing companies located in smaller areas.

Move the jobs to cities and the people will be forced to follow.


22 posted on 09/29/2010 5:33:45 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Don’t forget #555- The “You are nothing but an anarchist, free market Libertarian, big brother knows best”, argument..


23 posted on 09/29/2010 5:34:01 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

At least he no longer threatens to stab people with his pitchfork.


24 posted on 09/29/2010 5:36:51 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: cripplecreek

“When I go camping, I may drive for hours on little two tracks without seeing a living soul and I take a thousand lbs of gear with me. The choo choo marxists aren’t going to like that much.”

In a recent Backpacker magazine they featured a park in MN that has almost no visitors. All roads to the park were closed and you can only get there by canoe or kayak. They said less than 100 people visit a year.

The Nature Conservancy is part of this. Their plan is to turn vast tracks of the US into no human areas.


25 posted on 09/29/2010 5:37:30 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
Some parts of the country are so densely populated that public transportation makes sense. It doesn't all have to be a part of some master plan.

Maybe your grandfather lived in a city and rode trains and trolleys. There's nothing unamerican about it.

I'd certainly be opposed to somebody taking away cars or confiscating rural property, but there's much to be said for public transportation and city life as options.

26 posted on 09/29/2010 5:38:20 PM PDT by x
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To: driftdiver; cripplecreek
The Nature Conservancy is part of this. Their plan is to turn vast tracks of the US into no human areas.

This is reminiscent of "A Brave New World," including the compulsory mass-transit.

Each group (Alphas, Betas, etc...) have their assigned trains which take them to their assigned jobs and to approved recreational activities.

Some fail to understand the author intended it as a warning.

27 posted on 09/29/2010 5:43:03 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: driftdiver

Isle Royale in Michigan (Lake Superior) gets few visitors. I’ve never been there but I won’t be driving there soon. I suspect most visitors are from Canada because they’re closer.


28 posted on 09/29/2010 5:43:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: x; driftdiver
Maybe your grandfather lived in a city and rode trains and trolleys. There's nothing unamerican about it.

My grandfather farmed. He used horses for much of the work.

29 posted on 09/29/2010 5:45:50 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: x

“Some parts of the country are so densely populated that public transportation makes sense.”

Those parts already have mass transit.

“I’d certainly be opposed to somebody taking away cars or confiscating rural property,”

They won’t ‘confiscate’ them, they’ll just be so expensive only the elite will be able to afford a private car.


30 posted on 09/29/2010 5:53:28 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
Those parts already have mass transit.

And other parts of the country will never become so crowded that mass transit becomes an real option?

That's what Los Angeles thought not so long ago.

Even if you love to drive, would it be a bad idea to let others take the train?

More room on the highway for you.

31 posted on 09/29/2010 5:57:03 PM PDT by x
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To: driftdiver
they’ll just be so expensive only the elite will be able to afford a private car.

Which is really the point, isolate freedoms to just be accessible to the noble classes. People call it socialism, but I am leaning more towards calling it Feudalism.

32 posted on 09/29/2010 5:57:34 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Grizzled Bear

I have a friend who grew up in the Soviet Union. She told me about the strictly controlled vacations, schooling, work, etc.

She told me about the times when she was able to see her parents (who worked in different closed cities) and their vacations on the crimean peninsula. They took the train along miles of deserted roads that were used only by party officials and VIPs. Those roads went to dachas for important people the train was for “the people” who were going to pre assigned cabins at resorts that were strictly segregated among the various social classes.

Its kinda funny. She complains that all the things American marxists claim as reasons to support some kind of communism, are the things that suffer most under communism. They support communism in the name of the environment, communism destroys the environment. They support communism in the name of human rights, human rights are nearly non existent under communism. In the all are equal communist societies, social stratification is most pronounced.


33 posted on 09/29/2010 5:58:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: x

They can take all the trains they want to take. I just don’t want to pay for them through involuntary theft (aka: taxes).


34 posted on 09/29/2010 6:09:14 PM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: Willie Green

>>Free market Libertarians suffer paranoid delusions from the “medical” marijuana they smoke.<<

You must be thinking of your relatives because i certainly don’t fit any of those descriptions.

Now, you are the one pushing the Agenda 21’s high speed and light rail all the time on FR, not I.


35 posted on 09/29/2010 6:12:42 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Conflict is inevitable; Combat is an option. Train for the fight.)
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To: waterhill

>>Shame on you for gettin willie all revved up... poor guy has a train fetish ( and I do Not want to know what it entails...)

Quit poking the lions....(remember the old cartoon? they kept telling the dumbass, and at the end of the toon, all that was left was the stick.........)

Do you want that on your mind for the rest of your life? Do you?<<

Sure, I can handle that burden. LOL


36 posted on 09/29/2010 6:15:11 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Conflict is inevitable; Combat is an option. Train for the fight.)
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To: waterhill

Aw come on. Ridin the train is fun.


37 posted on 09/29/2010 6:19:01 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Conflict is inevitable; Combat is an option. Train for the fight.)
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To: driftdiver

>>The Nature Conservancy is part of this. Their plan is to turn vast tracks of the US into no human areas.<<

My understanding of this is that they regulate this land as non human to trade up for the carbon program.


38 posted on 09/29/2010 6:22:23 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Conflict is inevitable; Combat is an option. Train for the fight.)
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To: mnehring

I am soo glad that I wasn’t imbibing anything when I opened that........!!!!

LOL!!!!!


39 posted on 09/29/2010 6:22:46 PM PDT by waterhill (Who got their elk? I did not............)
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To: cripplecreek

I have a friend who grew up in the Soviet Union. She told me about the strictly controlled vacations, schooling, work, etc.

She told me about the times when she was able to see her parents (who worked in different closed cities) and their vacations on the crimean peninsula. They took the train along miles of deserted roads that were used only by party officials and VIPs. Those roads went to dachas for important people the train was for “the people” who were going to pre assigned cabins at resorts that were strictly segregated among the various social classes.

Its kinda funny. She complains that all the things American marxists claim as reasons to support some kind of communism, are the things that suffer most under communism. They support communism in the name of the environment, communism destroys the environment. They support communism in the name of human rights, human rights are nearly non existent under communism. In the all are equal communist societies, social stratification is most pronounced.

Hey, can I repeat this, or is some socialist gonna bop me on the head and chunk me into a gulag?


40 posted on 09/29/2010 6:32:40 PM PDT by waterhill (Who got their elk? I did not............)
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