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Navy pilots under scrutiny for dip into Lake Tahoe
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | SEPTEMBER 23, 201 | JEANETTE STEELE

Posted on 09/24/2010 1:43:30 PM PDT by South40

Two Navy helicopters from North Island Naval Air Station were damaged, and their pilots are now grounded, after some bizarre flying over Lake Tahoe last week.

A Navy spokesman confirmed Thursday that a video posted on YouTube is genuine footage of two MH-60 Romeo helicopters from North Island’s Helicopter Maritime Strike 41 squadron.

The video shows the $33 million helicopters flying low over the lake. One seems to lose control, spinning and crashing into the water. The pilot then regains control and pulls the craft back into the air.

The Navy wouldn’t identify the pilots or say whether the helicopters were supposed to be hovering over Lake Tahoe, only saying that the entire Sept. 13 flight is under investigation.

The pilots are not flying until the Navy wraps up an aviation mishap board investigation, said Lt. Aaron Kakiel, spokesman for the Naval Air Forces command at North Island.

Lake Tahoe is not a normal training area for Navy pilots, he said.

The pilots could face administrative action — and even lose their flying qualifications — depending on the outcome of the investigation.

Though the YouTube video only catches one crashing, both helicopters hit the water because they didn’t have sufficient power to hold their hovering positions, Kakiel said.

The damage suffered by the two aircraft is estimated at between $50,000 and $500,000. They had to land at Lake Tahoe Airport to be repaired.

Watching the video made retired Navy jet pilot Steve Diamond think the helicopter crew may have had a legitimate reason to be hovering over Lake Tahoe.

Somebody out hotdogging probably wouldn’t do it in view of another aircrew, or over a popular tourist destination, said Diamond, who retired in 2002.

“Somebody has to be a total moron to do it in total view of tourists and in a recreational area, when everyone has a camera these days. We don’t really have morons flying naval aircraft,” he said.

“It’s possible they were troubleshooting a problem; you don’t know,” Diamond said. “It’s easy to make a snap judgment, but there are other possibilities.”

A different set of pilots flew the aircraft home, Kakiel said. HSM-41, which trains new pilots, dispatched another crew on a commercial flight to fly the helicopters back Sept. 16.

The MH-60 Romeo is the Navy’s newest helicopter and is considered state of the art. Its usual missions take it over the open ocean for anti-ship and anti-submarine warfare.

The MH-60s were flying home from Mather Air Force Base near Sacramento where they had taken part in an air show. Needing to refuel, the pilots were headed to Lemoore Naval Air Station when the incident happened.

A typical crew for the MH-60 Romeo is a pilot, co-pilot and crewman.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: dip; helicopter; helicopters; lake; laketahoe; mh60; navy; pilots; romeo; scrutiny; tahoe
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1 posted on 09/24/2010 1:43:32 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40

LOL! They will never fly anything again. Jackasses.


2 posted on 09/24/2010 1:46:38 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: South40
Pilots are an interesting lot. Daredevils by nature. Sometimes it can get them in trouble ...

SnakeDoc

3 posted on 09/24/2010 1:48:10 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("When you have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow." -- Teddy Roosevelt)
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To: South40

There are North Korean mini-subs in Lake Tahoe


4 posted on 09/24/2010 1:49:20 PM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: South40
“It’s possible they were troubleshooting a problem; you don’t know,” Diamond said. “It’s easy to make a snap judgment, but there are other possibilities.”

That about sums it up.

5 posted on 09/24/2010 1:49:48 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: South40

"so howz your career going after winning that bet?"

6 posted on 09/24/2010 1:50:08 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: South40

Well, if we had a bunch of milquetoast pilots, we wouldn’t have a very effective military.

Comes with the territory.


7 posted on 09/24/2010 1:50:37 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: South40

Grampa Pettibone’s going to flip over this.


8 posted on 09/24/2010 1:50:46 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: South40
“Somebody has to be a total moron to do it in total view of tourists and in a recreational area, when everyone has a camera these days. We don’t really have morons flying naval aircraft,”

Really? Things must have changed after I left in 1993.

9 posted on 09/24/2010 1:52:18 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: South40

Circumstances relating to what was perceived by the pilot as an equipment malfunction required a brief test of operational limits of the craft and crew. The skinny-dipping, of course, was implemented as a morale booster. Report closed.


10 posted on 09/24/2010 1:52:52 PM PDT by golux
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To: South40

Video is at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYExH8hpgXI


11 posted on 09/24/2010 1:53:01 PM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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To: VR-21

New “scubacopters”


12 posted on 09/24/2010 1:54:46 PM PDT by BubbaJunebug
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To: South40

Passing to a rotorhead friend of mine. Maybe I’ll get useful input.


13 posted on 09/24/2010 1:58:26 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: South40

Odd. Almost like a “who’s got the bigger water spray” contest.


14 posted on 09/24/2010 1:59:17 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: BubbaJunebug

Looks to me like the dwondraft kicked up enough mist to interfere with engine air intakes - thereby reducing lift balance power.


15 posted on 09/24/2010 1:59:20 PM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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To: South40
Pull up! Pull up!!!!!

Nice recovery!

16 posted on 09/24/2010 2:00:01 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: ALPAPilot
Stupid stunts in full of the public never happen. /s


17 posted on 09/24/2010 2:00:58 PM PDT by South40 (Filled with hatred for those who disagree, democrats are the most intolerant bigots on earth)
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To: South40

These guys are tasked with flying right to the edge right now in Stan....Letting off some steam and having some balls to the wall fun has to be allowed more. Sucks that some Civ caught all this on tape, on them.


18 posted on 09/24/2010 2:01:18 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: VR-21

As a former Naval Aviator.

Boys will be boys -— but assume you’re always being filmed or be prepared to lose your career

I have done dumber


19 posted on 09/24/2010 2:02:02 PM PDT by KCengineer ( Speaking the TRUTH)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Thanks, I’ll be interested to hear what your friend has to say.


20 posted on 09/24/2010 2:02:12 PM PDT by South40 (Filled with hatred for those who disagree, democrats are the most intolerant bigots on earth)
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