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Law would crack down on roaring motorcycles (Another reason to hate California)
MSNBC ^ | 21 September 2010 | ALEJANDRA MOLINA

Posted on 09/22/2010 12:56:11 AM PDT by Terrence DoGood

"As the popularity of motorcycles increases, loud pipes become offensive to the general public out there," Scott added.

The roaring motorcycles -- primarily Harleys -- have led to a bill that would target motorcyclists who remove factory-installed emission control devices mandated by the federal government and replace them with custom, aftermarket parts that often make their bikes louder and more polluting.

SB 435 had been approved by the state legislature and now is sitting on the Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's desk. The Harley-riding governor has until Sept. 30 to sign the bill into law or veto it.

If the governor puts his stamp of approval on the measure, motorcyclists would be required to post a visible, unaltered Environment Protection Agency stamp to confirm the exhaust system is clean burning and does not exceed 80 decibels -- about the same noise level as a vacuum cleaner. The stamp would only be required for motorcycles and aftermarket parts made after 2013.

"The noise caused by illegally modified motorcycle exhaust systems is a major quality of life issue across the state," said state Sen. Fran Pavley, a Democrat from Agoura Hills. "Basic common sense and decency dictates that when a motorcycle drives by and sets off every car alarm on the street, that is too loud

First-time offenders would be fined up to $100; tickets could be voided if the owners bring their bikes back into compliance. Subsequent infractions would be subject to fines of $100 to $250.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; harleydavidson
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Why would any freedom loving American live in this police state? - TD ('08 HD Softail Nightrain rider)
1 posted on 09/22/2010 12:56:14 AM PDT by Terrence DoGood
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To: martin_fierro

MH ping!


2 posted on 09/22/2010 12:57:43 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Terrence DoGood

You think you should be allowed to make as much noise as you like?

Hell no.


3 posted on 09/22/2010 12:58:41 AM PDT by DB
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To: DB
“You think you should be allowed to make as much noise as you like?”

All the Libs like Code Pink and every other Commie Punk organization out of Berkley thinks so. If I hear the sound of a Harley coming down the street, I hear sanity!

4 posted on 09/22/2010 1:06:26 AM PDT by poobear ("The greatest tyrannies are always perpetrated in the name of the noblest causes." -- Thomas Paine)
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To: poobear

thinks = think

-!


5 posted on 09/22/2010 1:07:41 AM PDT by poobear ("The greatest tyrannies are always perpetrated in the name of the noblest causes." -- Thomas Paine)
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To: Terrence DoGood

I’m amazed at the sound levels some bikers get away with. Pretty sure that any car making that much noise would be pulled over and ticketed.

I still remember a group of yuppie bikers revving their fancy bikes in a national park. Obnoxious as hell!


6 posted on 09/22/2010 1:11:26 AM PDT by utax
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To: Terrence DoGood

If you thought soccer moms didn’t look out for motorcycles now, just wait.


7 posted on 09/22/2010 1:12:03 AM PDT by NorthStarStateConservative (I'm just another disabled naturalized minority vegan pro life conservative.)
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To: Terrence DoGood
I disagree.

79 db's NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8 posted on 09/22/2010 1:14:00 AM PDT by shadowcat
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To: Terrence DoGood

You know.

It sometimes seems that liberalism is at its simplest, nothing more than an ideological hostility, to testosterone.


9 posted on 09/22/2010 1:14:12 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (GOP establishment are dinosaurs. Tea Party is a great big asteroid...)
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To: DB

Excuse me, “allowed”? You’re gonna really think we’re neanderthals because we don;t even have to wear helmets here. Thank the good lord above the freedom loving people of South Carolina get the final say on this kind of thing, not some RINO jackass in a Governor’s Mansion or a handfull of limp-wristed, birkenstock wearing, latte sipping sissies.


10 posted on 09/22/2010 1:24:20 AM PDT by Terrence DoGood
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To: Terrence DoGood

It’s not the pipes the SOBs object to. It’s the men on the bikes. Too manly. Too rough. Not fagotty enough, sissy enough, liberal enough, or scared of their own shadows. Libs aren’t going to be happy until half the women are butch and all the men are faggots. It’s easy to see which way we’re going. Look for them eventually to outlaw urinals, and peeing while standing.


11 posted on 09/22/2010 1:30:23 AM PDT by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: Terrence DoGood

Yes allowed.

I don’t care if you wear a helmet or not - as long as you don’t hold me responsible when you break your head.

You do not have the right to intrude on others lives with loud noise at all hours of the day. Your rights don’t come at the expense of others.


12 posted on 09/22/2010 1:35:03 AM PDT by DB
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To: DB

I’m with you! Kids in Japan do the same thing, ripping off their carefully designed pipes and blasting away at mega-decibels at all hours of the night in total inconsideration of other people.

Freedom to ride, by all means! Freedom to make a nuisance of yourself and act like a frigging jerk, hell no!


13 posted on 09/22/2010 1:39:53 AM PDT by Ronin (If it were not so gruesomely malevolent, Islam would just be silly.)
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To: DB

Is it any different than gangsta’s riding around with loud music?


14 posted on 09/22/2010 1:39:53 AM PDT by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: LibWhacker

I live in Charleston, SC and it’s an absolutely beautiful city. Great restaurants, bars, shops, etc and I enjoy all the city has to offer.

That being said, when I’m on my Harley and I ride through the city, I can see a difference in the looks I get as opposed to when I’m just walking around. It’s as if being a on bike (and my Harley is kinda loud), wearing old blue jeans, boots, and a garage workshirt, makes me some kind of freak.

To make it worse is seeing today’s liberal version of men; prancing around in those skin-tight jeans, their little scarves and Justin Beiber haircuts, it just makes me laugh and shake my head.


15 posted on 09/22/2010 1:39:56 AM PDT by Terrence DoGood
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To: LibWhacker
Bikes bah, try stone trucks hitting their jake brakes 100 feet from your living room window, now that's a real man's noise.
16 posted on 09/22/2010 1:45:45 AM PDT by this_ol_patriot
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To: DB

Many motorcyclists intentionally modify the exhaust as a safety precaution. The loud noise informs cars if their presence, since most cars do not see motorcycles.


17 posted on 09/22/2010 1:48:55 AM PDT by zeebee
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To: Ronin

You beat me to it... I was going to say something similar about “bosozoku” .. very annoying..

Bikk


18 posted on 09/22/2010 1:49:25 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: DB

Thats the difference between liberals and conservatives, a conservative never whines about something that he/she is responsible for. How does my loud pipes intrude? I say roll up your damn window and deal with it.

This kind of law doesn’t surpeise me, afterall its California-stan. A state so screwed financially they “hold Americans responsible” for paying college tuition for illegals. Citizens there started losing basic freedoms so long ago, they don’t even recognize it when what little they have is being erased. But thats why I’d never live there.

Here in South Carolina, we’d tell people like you where you can stick that law and that would basically settle that.


19 posted on 09/22/2010 1:49:50 AM PDT by Terrence DoGood
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To: Terrence DoGood

Unnecessary law...just enforce existing law...aftermarket pipes/headers are already regulated by CARB and the California Vehicle Code:

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/vc/tocd12c5a2_5.htm

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/motorcycle1/motorcycle1.htm#Q1

Problem is that nobody is writing tickets for violations of existing law...so the pressure for additional law rises.


20 posted on 09/22/2010 1:55:18 AM PDT by Drago
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