Russian SPETSNAZ arrested at powerplant by I-95 possibly with a tactical nuke?

savannahnow.com ^ | 9/9/2010 | DeAnn Komanecky, Jeff Nyquist, Kabud

[Kabud]

This is the original news report from SPRINGFIELD, Effingham County in Georgia, next to the entrance of I-95 to Florida.

Effingham deputies call feds after arresting Russians with shovel, wire cutters outside Georgia Power plant

by Evgeniy Luzhetskiy

SPRINGFIELD — Effingham County sheriff deputies have reported the early Sunday morning arrest of three men to the federal Joint Terrorism Task Force.

The men, two from Russia and one from Kazakhstan, were found near Georgia Power’s Plant McIntosh on Old Augusta Road about 1 a.m. Sunday after a ranger with the Department of Natural Resources reported a suspicious vehicle, Effingham County sheriff’s spokesman David Ehsanipoor said.

Deputies reported the men, who were inside a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, had a machete, shovel, wire cutters and ski masks. One man also had black silk stockings in his front left pocket.

Arrested were Evgeniy Luzhetskiy, of Kazakhastan Nail Idiatullin and Rustem Ibragimov of Russia. All three reported they lived in Charleston, S.C., deputies reported.

The men were all charged with possession of tools during the commission of a crime.

The three were released after being interviewed by task force members, Ehsanipoor said.

"They did all have visas that allowed them to be here and are supposed to be leaving the country soon."

This is the letter to the editor of savannahnow.com :

To the editor:

With regard to the detention and questioning of three men from the "former" Soviet Union caught near a power plant with a shovel and wire cutters, several posts to Your web site were deleted for linking to stories about Russian/Soviet spetsnaz. 

Those who posted were then banned, as if they had committed an egregious offense.

If I were a national security official I'd be burning with curiosity as to the reason for censoring such material.

Is Your paper being pressured by someone?

And why would this topic be so sensitive, so off limits, when You allowed posters to discuss the possible Jewish ethnicity of the aforementioned "former" Soviet persons?

The oblique suggestion of a jewish conspiracy is allowed, but a link to a New York Times piece on Russian special operations is deleted, along with links to GRU defector testimony from two knowledgeable experts.

Whether these deletions are due to a pro-Russian bias or to some mental block (produced, perhaps, by years of successful "active measures" against the American psyche), the deletion got my attention far more than a story about suspicious Russian-related activity (which is rather commonplace).

I don't suppose You will answer this email, but curiosity got the best of me.

Jeff Nyquist

p.s.

In order to help You to make a better objective judgment on The Issue

I take my liberty to copy the postings that SavannaNow deleted:

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let me answer several questions

By karkas1 | 09/10/10 - 07:47 pm these people are not amish also there are not jews Their ethnic background is one Russian, possibly Christian, and two others Russian Caucasians, possibly Muslims; however this background stuff does not matter, because their true religion is Communism and ethnically there are Marxists - these people don't have motherland, but there are willing to possess the whole Earth. And America is the only country which is an obstacle on their way; so tehre are ready for everything to ruin it.

 

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I am surprized with you, Americans!

By karkas1 | 09/10/10 - 07:40 pm You just caught three very dangerous Russian diversants and you are going to let them go?! Do you know what will happen next? Let me explain you. Their bosses back in Moscow will see that it is totally OK to send their agents to the US to set up various attacks against Americans. In case if these agents are caught, there is no punishment for them and in the worst case these agents will be sent back home, as it was done a couple of months ago to the guys from a spy ring, and as it is going to be done now. It means, that in the future you will have to expect tens of thousands of Russians who will be setting up various diversions on you sensitive objects, and even if catch some of them, others will do the job! If you want my advise what to do with these guys - here it is: put them to jail for at least 10 years. Next time they should be scared to go to America with bad intentions. Yet, BTW, Russians will respect you more.

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SPETSNAZ in the search of a spot marked for nuke hiding place

By Kabud | 09/12/10 - 04:43 am

Setting up one of these devices is complicated. The bombs need a small amount of power to keep them safely in storage. For example, the GRU specialist might have to run a very small wire to an electrical source, such as a power wire, and then attach it to the weapon. The wires can be run as far as one hundred yards or more from the weapon. The wires are small enough that they would easily break if someone tampered with them or tried to follow them to their source. In case there is a loss of power, there is a battery

Nuclear devices can also be slipped across the Mexican or Canadian borders. It is easy to get a bomb to Cuba and from there transport it to Mexico. Usually the devices are carried by a Russian intelligence officer or a trusted agent. If a Russian intelligence officer was for some reason not involved, the human missile transporting the device would be killed after safely handing it over to a GRU specialist. This is a simple security precaution.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/30259323/Why-Russia-is-More-Dangerous-Than-Eve...

2. Spetsnaz fighting shovel.

http://militaryanalysis.blogspot.com/2008_10_01_archive.html

The common Soviet/Russian entrenching tool. Sharp on three sides, a single monolithic object, unlike the current American entrenching tool. Used by Spetsnaz soldiers as a fighting weapon, silent, and in the right hands, downright deadly.

"In a combat training of Spetsnaz soldiers a great attention is paid to their ability to engage in hand-to-hand combat and to use hand-held weapon . . . an entrenching shovel is of special importance . . . it is a formidable weapon of the close combat."

"the entrenching shovel is an excellent throwing implement - the range of aimed throw made by a well-trained specialist is 10 meters or more."

A weapon used as a hand-to-hand fighting tool, and, WHEN USED IN THE RIGHT HANDS, A THROWING WEAPON ALSO!

Again - - from Suvorov:

http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/09.html

"In the hands of a spetsnaz soldier the spade is a terrible noiseless weapon . . . The little spade can be used in hand-to-hand fighting against blows from a bayonet, a knife, a fist or another spade . . . Finally a soldier is taught to throw the spade as accurately as he would use a sword or a battle axe . . . As it spins in flight [the spade has] accuracy and thrust. It becomes a terrifying weapon. If it lands in a tree it is not so easy to pull out again."

Here, thanks to the Russian web site: "Entrenching Shovel in Close Combat. Version of Spetsnaz GRU. Basic Fighting Technique." you can see video clips of Alexander Popov [???], demonstrating the fighting shovel combat technique.

You see a lot of twirls, pirouettes, jumps, etc. Ballet-like in form??!! This is characteristic of Russian style martial arts? Russian All-round Fighting [RAF] DOES emphasize Russian folk dance as a basis for many martial arts "moves"!? An indigenously developed Russian close-quarters-combat fighting form that is very effective!?

I would ask the question too, HOW OFTEN WOULD SUCH WEAPONS BE EMPLOYED?

Martial arts as taught to special operations units the world over are obviously useful, to say the least, but how often used? I would think very rarely, if at all?

Such martial arts techniques are more than anything else an excellent way of developing physical fitness, building confidence, instilling aggressiveness, AND OF COURSE - - PERHAPS KILLING AN AMERICAN SENTRY - - NOISELESSLY - - WITH A KNIFE OR A SHOVEL!!

An even more frightful weapon is a spade in the hands of a skilled fighter. It was with the Soviet Army spade that we began this book. Ways of using it are one of the dramatic elements of sambo. A spetsnaz soldier can kill people with a spade at a distance of several metres as easily, freely and silently as with a P-6 gun.

Lunev asserted that some of the hidden caches could contain portable tactical nuclear weapons known as RA-115 "suitcase bombs". Such bombs have been prepared to assassinate US leaders in the event of war, according to him [1] Lunev states that he had personally looked for hiding places for weapons caches in the Shenandoah Valley area[1] and that "it is surprisingly easy to smuggle nuclear weapons into the US, either across the Mexican border or using a small transport missile that can slip undetected when launched from a Russian airplane [1]

God Bless USA  

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russians can do it here with a nuke and more

From Kabud | 09/12/10 - 01:37 pm http://losangeles.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel10/la051810.htm The FBI is coordinating a training exercise among multiple government and law enforcement organizations at the national and local level, to exercise response capabilities relative to a terrorist attack involving an improvised nuclear device. The exercise will take place Monday, May 17th through Wednesday, May 19th.

But mind that there is no such thing as `homemade nuke`. ON the other hand a suitecase device is a real one. So it is all just double speak.

From New York Times article published on 04/16/2010

Intelligence officials feared that bomb parts might be delivered in diplomatic mail pouches, carried by international air travelers in their luggage or delivered by boat or submarine to an isolated beach.

Communist agents already in the country might then assemble, plant and detonate the weapons. “Surveillance of all Communist Party members and sympathizers is impossible and impractical since numerically they exceed by many times the total Special Agent force of the F.B.I.,” a bureau memo complained. J. Edgar Hoover, the F.B.I. director, who was intensely focused on the smuggling threat, proposed increasing manpower to cope.

Among many potential nuclear saboteurs, F.B.I. field offices identified the proprietor of a left-wing bookstore in Seattle, a reporter for the Soviet news agency Tass and even a representative of the American Council for a Democratic Greece.

When the Polish consul to Detroit arrived in the United States in the mid-1950s with four big boxes, F.B.I. agents surreptitiously searched them for nuclear material. They found 24 bottles of cherry cordial but “no article or part thereof that could be construed as a portion of a weapon of mass destruction,” their secret report solemnly declared.

Security officials later speculated about whether China might set off a smuggled nuke in the United States and make it look like a Soviet attack, provoking devastating war between its rivals. Later, as portable tactical nuclear weapons proliferated in both Eastern and Western Europe, there were periodic alarms about their security.

In the 1950s the United States knew its adversaries had weapons; the mystery was whether they might use them. Today, said Jeffrey T. Richelson, a historian of nuclear weapons, the situation is reversed: Qaeda leaders have suggested publicly that they would use a nuclear weapon, “but as far as we know, Al Qaeda hasn’t even come close to building a bomb.”

(Excerpt) Read more at  http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/16/world/16memo.html

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Where are the messages of KABUD?

By karkas1 | 09/12/10 - 06:16 pm

Dear moderator, yesterday I saw here several messages written by Kabud, which contained links to information that is highly important for understanding the described events. Unfortunately, I don't see them here any more. One of them I have in my cash (see below), however, there were several more important notes from this user. Because, to the best of my knowledge, his messages did not violate any rules and did not contain any offensive meaning, I would ask you if you could be so kind to restore them Thank you! Here is the message that I have in my cash:  < THIS USER QUOTED ONE OF THE ABOVE>

"..This is a place where you can take the lead in telling your own story. As a registered Savannahnow.com user, you get your own weblog, your own photo gallery, and the ability to post entries in special databases such as events and recipes. In return, we ask that you meet this character challenge: be a good citizen and exhibit community leadership qualities. It's a simple and golden rule. Act as you would like your neighbors to act. Anybody can be a leader. You're a leader every day in what you do and what you say -- regardless of whether you  want to be a leader. Your words have power."                                                                       from :      http://savannahnow.com/about-us

[GOPJ]

Is it true the static has strange patterns?

[ClayinVA]

8-25-10
UBV-76

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-08/25/russian-numbers-station-broadcast-changes

[TheThinker]

Link for what?

[TheThinker]

Oh, a link to his reading of the Survivor's Club. Sorry, had to reread my post.

related FR thread

[PastorBooks]

Can you translate your post #257?

How can you tell?

[Stentor]

it is possible they were testing security

They were really good at it. What's the next move, holding up a Dunkin Donuts?

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

I agree with everything you wrote in post 198, and thank you for caring about this once-great nation. I’m simply trying to say that most of the “insults” you read on this thread, this webpage, are NOT insults. Americans forget how difficult it is for people to understand sarcasm if this is not where they were raised.

They are sarcastic jabs at the leftist kamizars who try to mock us and our suspicions. I don’t know how complicated that can be for people not raised in the USA.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Wait a minute - are you telling me that those muslims were UNITED against promoting their own religion?

[Kabud]

I cant remember , but some time in the past it was discussed
but I will have to find it again for you

so far just disregard that comment of mine, i may be wrong

[PastorBooks]

I find it odd that you both had dreams about Atlanta, because this is not the first time I’ve heard this.

There was a thread here back in June 2005 titled “Prophetic Events on the Horizon” that listed a lot of prophecies people were hearing about America. Many did not come true and the thread was deleted in 2006 at the request of the poster. One of the prophecies was warning about the future destruction of Atlanta, and that some people were being told in dreams to leave the city.

I also read a report from some Catholic priest named Wingate who had a dream about something happening in the deep South. He didn’t know where.

I don’t know if any of this means anything, but I thought I would pass it along.

Broker, be very attentive to the Lord. If you ever have a dream where you think the Lord is telling you to leave town, pack quickly.

[Broker]

Pastor: My suburban is always fueled for flight. My nuclear dream was a vision of distant destruction. The Lord will call me soon or late, I know not. Courage.. “for I am with thee to save thee and to deliver thee, saith the Lord.” Jeremiah 15:20

[ctdonath2]

Interesting. Just reserved it at the library. Why might a sitting President choose to study such a topic? Seems a topic way below his pay grade.

[Kabud]

i think btw powerplant and military base there one may find a set of fast foods

you made a very interesting remark

[Kabud]

If you look at the volumes of russian oil and gas exports since 1986

it looks like Russia is at the very top of the food chain

Today Russia is number one oil exporter with the export volume on top of Saudi Arabia

Europe is consuming like 40% of its natural gas from Russia

when oil price reaches $100 ruski make on export of oil and n-gas one billion dollars a day

with the economy of 1.2 tril in GDP this is big for them

[TigersEye]

None of which negates the facts of your post that Europe is rife with nuclear reactors in spite of the Soviets cunning plan. LOL

[Kabud]

Since 1986 Germany canceld the plans to build new reactors

Originally it was planned to demolish all existing.

Only this year it was announced that nuclear will stay there longer then planned

You can find all of it yourself, it is very well coverd in multiple sources

In 1986 Europe started to shift to ruski n-gas big time

[Kabud]

i hate to do it but it seems i have to any way.   Nuclear power in Germany has been high on the political agenda in recent decades, with continuing debates about whether the technology should be phased out. The topic received renewed attention at the start of 2007 due to the political impact of the Russia-Belarus energy dispute. All German nuclear plants are scheduled to be shut down by 2020. A closed nuclear fuel cycle was planned, starting with mining operations in the Saarland and the Schwarzwald; uranium ore concentration, fuel rod filling production in Hanau; and reprocessing of the spent fuel in the never-built nuclear fuel reprocessing plant at Wackersdorf. In 2000, the German government, consisting of the SPD and Alliance '90/The Greens officially announced its intention to phase out the use of nuclear power. This was enacted as the Nuclear Exit Law. The power plants of Stade and Obrigheim were turned off on 14 November 2003, and 11 May 2005, respectively. The plants' dismantling is scheduled to begin in 2007. And only in 2008(!!), Merkel and the CDU shifted to open opposition to the phase-out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_Germany

[TigersEye]

(yawn)

[Kabud]

this is how russians win the geopolitical game all the time:

the figure importance of some things that make us yawn

[TigersEye]

Oh, it’s not the Russians that are boring me.