Russian SPETSNAZ arrested at powerplant by I-95 possibly with a tactical nuke?

savannahnow.com ^ | 9/9/2010 | DeAnn Komanecky, Jeff Nyquist, Kabud

[PghBaldy]

When the US govt talks about “nuclear” devices and conducts exercises dealing with homemade ones, they are talking about dirty bombs, which are basically nothing compared to actual fission (A-bombs) or fusion (H-bombs) bombs.

[Kabud]

my understanding is:

in 1983 USSR was very close to launch a surprise attack

But USA managed to somehow avoid it. Thanks to President Reagan, Judge Clark and of course Pope John Paul 2 and all those heroic figures with them

So later USA got to achieve strategic advantage against USSR
with a price of oil and Pershing rockets to make it simple.

Soviet move in response was:

1.they went for cover up of Perestroika

2.they blew up(secretly of course) Chornobyl nuclear station

From what i heard and the source is rather serious:

Gorbachev was a stooge of Primakov,

who still runs things in Russia behind the backs of clowns like putin or that other midget ,

Gorbachev agreed to become A Man who will launch an attack later. That was a MUST for Gorbachev to be appointed.

But thing went sour for soviets when Germany after unification did not go red as they expected.

So we may say that Cold war we(USA and Christian world) did win.

Or I rather say we won that battle of the 1980s.

But now they are up for revenge

Lets embrace our selfs and find a political and military answer to this threat.

[Kabud]

they announce things like that on regular basis for years

to test our reaction and of course prepare for war

[Kabud]

dirty bomb does not do a `trick`

look , lets think

Chornobyl was a 1000000 dirty bomb in one event:

radiation from the whole reactor was thrown into sky

The damage was big but ..not really something that can be compared even close to 9-11

u see..

[Sender]

We won the cold war all right. But those people are still around, still very dangerous. The communists think in longer terms like 20-year plans to rebound, the Chinese think in thousand-year plans. Americans don’t think much past lunch or next weekend. Our enemies are willing to be patient to get what they want.

[mad_as_he$$]

Thing is that the US always had the strategic advantage over the USSR. WE were always superior - just didn't know it.

[Kabud]

I may be wrong with figures

but i referred to Ken Alibek

and here:
Russia signed the Chemical Weapons Convention on January 13, 1993 and ratified it on November 5, 1997. Russia declared an arsenal of 40,000 tons of chemical weapons in 1997

thats chemical

i cant find sources for biological right away- but it is in the open

[Kabud]

i was skeptical before 9-011

skeptical as hell

not any more

[Kabud]

Stalin had more arms then all of the Europe in 1941

by the way: USA businessmen armed Stalin to much extend

But that advantage including Stalin 10 million army diid not help USSR in 1941:

army deserted, weapons were left behind

Only after atrocities committed by Nazis became widely known in Russia things started to change

[kalee]

bttt

[Kabud]

O Man THANKS for all details!

I read Demon in the Freezer, I have it in my book list here
http://books.google.com/books?uid=5652302884137400206&as_coll=0&source=gbs_lp_bookshelf_list

great read.

I was told by someone who saw bio weapons stored: he said CANISTERS, MANY, like THOUSANDS

it was from early 80s. may be still antrax?

pakistan: i dont think so.

Unless ruski are there.

USA is not going to be able to respond with nukes after a ruski surprise attack:

our strategic posture is very weak

We have NO mobile ICBMS

Ruski have a vast territory with around 5000 known fortified bunkers and fortified silos to withstand direct nuclear hit

The (if it happens of course ) will attack our silos and submarines that carry nukes

There are days i read when most of our subs are in repair or something

And our nukes are badly concentrated in known areas to them

Our bombers are also in like not many places and targeted.

We have a strategic posture INVITING ruski attack

Just one thing: mobile ICBM

If we only get THAT here and put them in disguise as a truck of some kind

Also we must figure how to put something like Pershings close to ruski targets.

Also their real leaders will not be present in Russia at the time of attack: they most likely be hiding in Western Europe or even further away

So we must figure them first. real leaders not the clowns on TV

[brivette]

what an articulate response! as a former navy nuke, I’d be more afraid of the sub’s sitting in Groton than a conventional power plant...

[AuntB]

This photo was sent by a NAFBO friend:

This is incredible, on the streets of Moscow, yesterday @ end of Ramadan.

Story:

Tens Of Thousands' Of Muslims Flood Moscow Metro, Streets To Take Part In Holiday Marking End Of Ramadan

http://www.eurasiareview.com/201009097956/tens-of-thousands-of-muslims-flood-moscow-metro-streets-to-take-part-in-holiday-marking-end-of-ramadan.html

[Wildbill22]

We have something like 2000 strategic nukes with maybe another 3000 that can be uploaded in MIRVS and bombers and the like. 5000 warheads are a serious deterrent force, but like I mentioned above, Russians rarely keep their word in any treaty.

[GOPJ]

Thanks for the ping.

[Moltke]

One man also had black silk stockings in his front left pocket.

A romantic outing, perhaps?

[Thunder90]

PING

[Sender]

We could buy them from Putin.

Club-K Containter Missile System

[mad_as_he$$]

True, but I thought we were talking about the cold war era.

[mojito]

“The men were all charged with possession of tools during the commission of a crime.”

“The three were released after being interviewed by task force members, Ehsanipoor said.”

“They did all have visas that allowed them to be here and are supposed to be leaving the country soon.”

WTH?????

Sure, suspicious foreigners engaged in terrorist activities? No problem - just let them go. I mean, after all, they did have valid visas.

This is the very definition of national paralysis bordering on complete psychosis.