Posted on 09/13/2010 8:40:02 PM PDT by Kabud
This is the original news report from SPRINGFIELD, Effingham County in Georgia, next to the entrance of I-95 to Florida.
Effingham deputies call feds after arresting Russians with shovel, wire cutters outside Georgia Power plant
by Evgeniy Luzhetskiy
SPRINGFIELD — Effingham County sheriff deputies have reported the early Sunday morning arrest of three men to the federal Joint Terrorism Task Force.
The men, two from Russia and one from Kazakhstan, were found near Georgia Power’s Plant McIntosh on Old Augusta Road about 1 a.m. Sunday after a ranger with the Department of Natural Resources reported a suspicious vehicle, Effingham County sheriff’s spokesman David Ehsanipoor said.
Deputies reported the men, who were inside a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, had a machete, shovel, wire cutters and ski masks. One man also had black silk stockings in his front left pocket.
Arrested were Evgeniy Luzhetskiy, of Kazakhastan Nail Idiatullin and Rustem Ibragimov of Russia. All three reported they lived in Charleston, S.C., deputies reported.
The men were all charged with possession of tools during the commission of a crime.
The three were released after being interviewed by task force members, Ehsanipoor said.
"They did all have visas that allowed them to be here and are supposed to be leaving the country soon."
This is the letter to the editor of savannahnow.com :
To the editor:
I take my liberty to copy the postings that SavannaNow deleted:
By karkas1 | 09/10/10 - 07:47 pm these people are not amish also there are not jews Their ethnic background is one Russian, possibly Christian, and two others Russian Caucasians, possibly Muslims; however this background stuff does not matter, because their true religion is Communism and ethnically there are Marxists - these people don't have motherland, but there are willing to possess the whole Earth. And America is the only country which is an obstacle on their way; so tehre are ready for everything to ruin it.
By karkas1 | 09/10/10 - 07:40 pm You just caught three very dangerous Russian diversants and you are going to let them go?! Do you know what will happen next? Let me explain you. Their bosses back in Moscow will see that it is totally OK to send their agents to the US to set up various attacks against Americans. In case if these agents are caught, there is no punishment for them and in the worst case these agents will be sent back home, as it was done a couple of months ago to the guys from a spy ring, and as it is going to be done now. It means, that in the future you will have to expect tens of thousands of Russians who will be setting up various diversions on you sensitive objects, and even if catch some of them, others will do the job! If you want my advise what to do with these guys - here it is: put them to jail for at least 10 years. Next time they should be scared to go to America with bad intentions. Yet, BTW, Russians will respect you more.
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By Kabud | 09/12/10 - 04:43 am
Setting up one of these devices is complicated. The bombs need a small amount of power to keep them safely in storage. For example, the GRU specialist might have to run a very small wire to an electrical source, such as a power wire, and then attach it to the weapon. The wires can be run as far as one hundred yards or more from the weapon. The wires are small enough that they would easily break if someone tampered with them or tried to follow them to their source. In case there is a loss of power, there is a battery
Nuclear devices can also be slipped across the Mexican or Canadian borders. It is easy to get a bomb to Cuba and from there transport it to Mexico. Usually the devices are carried by a Russian intelligence officer or a trusted agent. If a Russian intelligence officer was for some reason not involved, the human missile transporting the device would be killed after safely handing it over to a GRU specialist. This is a simple security precaution.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/30259323/Why-Russia-is-More-Dangerous-Than-Eve...
2. Spetsnaz fighting shovel.
http://militaryanalysis.blogspot.com/2008_10_01_archive.html
The common Soviet/Russian entrenching tool. Sharp on three sides, a single monolithic object, unlike the current American entrenching tool. Used by Spetsnaz soldiers as a fighting weapon, silent, and in the right hands, downright deadly.
"In a combat training of Spetsnaz soldiers a great attention is paid to their ability to engage in hand-to-hand combat and to use hand-held weapon . . . an entrenching shovel is of special importance . . . it is a formidable weapon of the close combat."
"the entrenching shovel is an excellent throwing implement - the range of aimed throw made by a well-trained specialist is 10 meters or more."
A weapon used as a hand-to-hand fighting tool, and, WHEN USED IN THE RIGHT HANDS, A THROWING WEAPON ALSO!
Again - - from Suvorov:
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/09.html
"In the hands of a spetsnaz soldier the spade is a terrible noiseless weapon . . . The little spade can be used in hand-to-hand fighting against blows from a bayonet, a knife, a fist or another spade . . . Finally a soldier is taught to throw the spade as accurately as he would use a sword or a battle axe . . . As it spins in flight [the spade has] accuracy and thrust. It becomes a terrifying weapon. If it lands in a tree it is not so easy to pull out again."
Here, thanks to the Russian web site: "Entrenching Shovel in Close Combat. Version of Spetsnaz GRU. Basic Fighting Technique." you can see video clips of Alexander Popov [???], demonstrating the fighting shovel combat technique.
You see a lot of twirls, pirouettes, jumps, etc. Ballet-like in form??!! This is characteristic of Russian style martial arts? Russian All-round Fighting [RAF] DOES emphasize Russian folk dance as a basis for many martial arts "moves"!? An indigenously developed Russian close-quarters-combat fighting form that is very effective!?
I would ask the question too, HOW OFTEN WOULD SUCH WEAPONS BE EMPLOYED?
Martial arts as taught to special operations units the world over are obviously useful, to say the least, but how often used? I would think very rarely, if at all?
Such martial arts techniques are more than anything else an excellent way of developing physical fitness, building confidence, instilling aggressiveness, AND OF COURSE - - PERHAPS KILLING AN AMERICAN SENTRY - - NOISELESSLY - - WITH A KNIFE OR A SHOVEL!!
An even more frightful weapon is a spade in the hands of a skilled fighter. It was with the Soviet Army spade that we began this book. Ways of using it are one of the dramatic elements of sambo. A spetsnaz soldier can kill people with a spade at a distance of several metres as easily, freely and silently as with a P-6 gun.
Lunev asserted that some of the hidden caches could contain portable tactical nuclear weapons known as RA-115 "suitcase bombs". Such bombs have been prepared to assassinate US leaders in the event of war, according to him [1] Lunev states that he had personally looked for hiding places for weapons caches in the Shenandoah Valley area[1] and that "it is surprisingly easy to smuggle nuclear weapons into the US, either across the Mexican border or using a small transport missile that can slip undetected when launched from a Russian airplane [1]
God Bless USA
From Kabud | 09/12/10 - 01:37 pm http://losangeles.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel10/la051810.htm The FBI is coordinating a training exercise among multiple government and law enforcement organizations at the national and local level, to exercise response capabilities relative to a terrorist attack involving an improvised nuclear device. The exercise will take place Monday, May 17th through Wednesday, May 19th.
But mind that there is no such thing as `homemade nuke`. ON the other hand a suitecase device is a real one. So it is all just double speak.
From New York Times article published on 04/16/2010
Intelligence officials feared that bomb parts might be delivered in diplomatic mail pouches, carried by international air travelers in their luggage or delivered by boat or submarine to an isolated beach.
Communist agents already in the country might then assemble, plant and detonate the weapons. “Surveillance of all Communist Party members and sympathizers is impossible and impractical since numerically they exceed by many times the total Special Agent force of the F.B.I.,” a bureau memo complained. J. Edgar Hoover, the F.B.I. director, who was intensely focused on the smuggling threat, proposed increasing manpower to cope.
Among many potential nuclear saboteurs, F.B.I. field offices identified the proprietor of a left-wing bookstore in Seattle, a reporter for the Soviet news agency Tass and even a representative of the American Council for a Democratic Greece.
When the Polish consul to Detroit arrived in the United States in the mid-1950s with four big boxes, F.B.I. agents surreptitiously searched them for nuclear material. They found 24 bottles of cherry cordial but “no article or part thereof that could be construed as a portion of a weapon of mass destruction,” their secret report solemnly declared.
Security officials later speculated about whether China might set off a smuggled nuke in the United States and make it look like a Soviet attack, provoking devastating war between its rivals. Later, as portable tactical nuclear weapons proliferated in both Eastern and Western Europe, there were periodic alarms about their security.
In the 1950s the United States knew its adversaries had weapons; the mystery was whether they might use them. Today, said Jeffrey T. Richelson, a historian of nuclear weapons, the situation is reversed: Qaeda leaders have suggested publicly that they would use a nuclear weapon, “but as far as we know, Al Qaeda hasn’t even come close to building a bomb.”
(Excerpt) Read more at http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/16/world/16memo.html
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I agree about needing a missile defense program and other military hardware. I don’t think biological weapons are something I would back and I’m positive the U.S. will never have a known program for them. Pretty sick stuff. (no pun intended)
we have :
report from georgia
sources on spetsnaz
souces on suitcase nukes
general knowledge
so we may speculate but we dont know
may be nothing
may be they were looking for a hiding place
may be testing our security
life is rather vague thing to say for sure
And it doesn't look like that's going to change from talking with you.
friends lets stay friendly
we will need each other very badly very soon
No, because I am not going to post on an open forum what defenders need to know.
You simply assume I don’t know what I need to know.
A very large chunk of our country "knows" that fire can't melt steel, and a majority of voters in this country elected an illegal undocumented muslim to the presidency. We clearly DO have a country of imbeciles.
Amen to the imbeciles! Hope and change! Woo hoo! I want some of that Obama money.
must remind about a number of very highly placed ruski spies recently deported
one of them was sleeping with a top democratic party fundraser
another was pushing spyware to STRATFOR think tank
i heard that ALL conservative think tanks were also approached by rusky spy ring not just STRATFOR
another was a leading Hispanic columnist in a leading news paper
another was in bad with MANY rich new yorkers
The are here. They are serious
it is human nature all the countries are like that
Watchin’...
ruski have several 100s of thousands of tons of biological
if we want to live we MUST have it
it is not a choice
one may want to read Ken Alibek
It was curious how quickly the Russian spies were dispatched back home with no interrogation. Very curious. What might they have said about their intentions? Someone wanted them to be gone before they talked. Mne interesno. Ochin.
A Reminder:
a daughter of USA ambassador to Thailand Nicole John, 17 years old, an unbelievably beautiful girl
died falling from 25th floor in Manhattan
on the same day Victor Bout was supposed to be extradited from Thailand to USA
V. Bout is a long time friend of mr Sechin: a 3rd man in russian line of command after putin and medvedev
V.Bout and mr Sechin served together in Mozambique in 1986
when Mozambique President Samora Machel died
EXACTLY in the same way polish president Kachinsky was murdered.
Fort Stewart is only an hour away.
O MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Fort Stewart, home of the 3rd Infantry Division, is the largest Army installation east of the Mississippi River.
O mine....
Bada bing, big bada boom.
I can't comment on this particular story, but some of the things Kabud is saying are true. In the late 1990s, a Russian senior military official did defect from the Soviet Union and told the United States that a number of suitcase nukes had gone missing. He was later discredited by the Clinton Administration, but that's another matter.
Russian-Chino relations have been very tight for many years. Accelerated during the 1990's, China did a wholesale purchase of Russian military assets during Russia's "rebuilding" phase. China has been systematically implementing a number of 5-year plans to enhance their military might; Russia has willingly assisted their communist friends in exchange for fast cash.
During the 1990's, I kept a close eye on dual-use technology transfers under the Clinton Administration to China (despite the fact that China was violating every single nuclear non-proliferation treaty it had signed). What China could not get from us (thanks, Bill, you POS!), it stole; what it could not steal from us, it bought from Russia.
Why is this important? Both Russia and China have been funneling that technology to IRAN. Yes, the same whackjobs that have been threatening to blow us up since the late 1970s, when the Shah was booted out of power. The same whackjobs who just this week were reported to the "Useless Nations" because UN inspectors could not confirm that all their nuclear facilities were "peaceful". Is anyone surprised?
The essential element to this discussion rests on what these three countries have in common, and why Kabud is getting so upset. Kabud sees an alignment of the three as potentially deadly to the United States, and is deeply concerned that they are "shark bumping" us. Is Kabud correct? Only time will tell.
But know this: These 3 countries do have something in common. They all spew anti-American hatred to their people. They all regard us as a hegemonic threat to their existence. And they all portray us as the hindrance to their rightful ascension as the world's Superpower.
I kid you not.
Wow.
Bump.
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