Posted on 09/08/2010 11:55:01 PM PDT by American Dream 246
If we move from that location, the story will be that the radicals have taken over the discourse.
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That’s precisely the reason NOT to let it ever get built.
Interesting how opponents are labeled bigots, yet it’s the Obama administration, General Petraeus, and this guy who are CONFIRMING that Muslims have a serious violence problem.
This kind of “if / or” argument ignores history. The Islamic ‘Radicals’ have attacked the USofA ever since they got sufficient petrodollars to be heard outside their own borders. To say that persuasion to move this “in-your-face” Cordoba House will change even a single rabid anti-American radical or to keep one from being formed is so ludicrous as to be unworthy of further consideration.
The Mosque does not even exist right now. So he himself is causing the National Security issue. He has become a national security threat. Needs to be arrested immediately.
Worse still, they are admitting they have no way to protect any Americans from retaliations. That includes our military in harms way hamstrung with ridiculous ROE restrictions. We are on our own, but that should be obvious to anyone located near our southern border. Remember the World Trade Center. Never forget. Be save and be prepared.
Enough of the word and Mind Games Camel Jockey,Islamists flew Airplanes into the Buildings slaughtering thousands of Innocent people,you dont build a 13 story monument to the Perpetrators anywhere near the site PERIOD,it is sacred Burial Ground. Go fix your slum buildings you putz or take care of all the 2 story Mosques you have in New York already. Thirteen story Mosque to Celebrate your victory over the Great satan ,PALEAEEEEEEESE,take a Hike.
The radical Islamists have a hair trigger for mob violence as is evidenced by riots, murder, and mayhem in connection with pictures or critical writings or rumors about defacing or destroying their holy book, the Qur'an.
But where are the demonstrations in connection with their destruction of Christian churches, killing of Christians, burning of Bibles, our burning of Bibles so as not to disturb their sensibilities? When will we stop behaving like the vanquished, and stand up for our God, our culture, our way of life?
He is correct, the building of the Ground Zero mosque will signify the end of hostilities on the other hand if Americans do not submit and allow the building of the mosque, then we will face the consequences.
This is not a project of Imam Rauf alone, our elected Muslim president Barack Hussein Obama is more deeply involved in this than you can imagine and if you dont think so then take a step back, clear your head and ask yourself the simple question as Why a President of the United States would come out in such strong support of a "private real estate project" and why would the State Department finance his junket to the the Middle East during the month of Ramadan (the significance of which will elude almost all Americans)
One Hundred Million Dollars my FRiends, that is not chump change. That kind of financing comes from governments and not from individuals.
Rauf knows very well that in Islam the month of Ramadan is the one month in the year that the Muslim governments cannot refuse to make contributions to build the mosque.
You see Rauf cannot move the mosque now, because he sold not just the idea of building the mosque, but the location as well. The location that holds a special significance to all muslims wordwide.
I do a lot of black powder shooting, bear grease works the best but bacon grease will do in a pinch. Only bad thing about using bacon grease is the atmosphere around you starts smelling like - - - - - - burnt breakfast?!?
The two of them would make a great team!!
Concerning the burning of the Koran:
Most people start this conversation by condemning the Pastor for burning the Koran because it is inciteful. What they also do is add in one sentence about our free speech and how he has the right to do this.
What is left out is everything else people say afterwards, about how this is anti-Christian, this is against common sense, it will cause riots, it is hate filled, the Pastor is a nut, blah blah
What everyone ends up doing is making a SINGLE sentence on his right to dissent and then 8 or 9 sentences about why it is wrong.
THE POINT: All that does is create an air of APOLOGY to Islam and Muslims. It makes us sound weak, we sound sorry, we condemn one of our own in the same breath we support our own. We end up telling the world we dont want to upset people with the actions of one rude person so please believe the rest of us dont want to hurt you.
It is a HUGE apology attitude to ISLAM in general.
As Richard Cox said, I am glad there is one guy who is telling the truth. And yes, I would not recommend this, but for Gods sake!
WE ARE ABANDONING OUR OWN CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS TO FREE SPEECH TO PLACATE A RELIGION THAT WANTS TO KILL US AND THEIR ANGER AT THIS IS MORE PROOF THEY ARE A VIOLENT MURDER CULT AND NOT A GENUINE RELIGION OF GOD!!
Vicevich himself, all the 3 hours of his show today when he spoke of it, made one or two sentences in his times of how that guy has the right, but he always said MORE about how he disagreed with the guy and then let most callers speak of how they disagreed with the guy doing it, their Christian faith, inciting riots, blah blah.
By NOT confronting the Islamic world on this, we are ABANDONING our rights as Americans, and THAT is the larger and more prominent issue in all this.
It’s okay to have billy Clubs at a voting booth, but it is not okay to protest a mosque at Ground Zero.
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/currents/20100704_Back_Channels__Panther_case_dismissal_needs_explanation.html
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It’s okay to demand that Israel give up land for peace but it is not okay for Muslims to accept Israel’s right to exist.
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http://www.mideastweb.org/hamas.htm
http://www.cartercenter.org/news/documents/doc137.html
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It is wrong to burn korans in Florida as an expression of disagreeing with Islam, but the US Military burns unsolicited Bibles in Afghanistan
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http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/05/20/us.military.bibles.burned/index.html
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It is wrong to protest a mosque at Ground Zero because it might inflame Islamic sensitivities, yet Islamic followers constantly call for our deaths and riot and burn our flag with no American government interference or comment.
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http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2010/08/20108323348309300.html
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/19571993
http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=2455
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/09/afghans_protest_fl_churchs_koran-burning_plans_dea.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLK1Xpc7SMQ
http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&rlz=1T4RNTN_enUS381US381&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=muslim+burn+american+flag&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
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The U.N. is taking steps to make it ILLEGAL to criticize Islam worldwide, yet it is okay to be hateful to any other religion.
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http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=90736
http://europenews.dk/en/node/21076
http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/7rcg2/criticizing_islam_is_now_illegal_in_holland/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1Lo7qL6cts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzzCA_oAifI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQNE0Qkp1Ac&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3MA3ue7ocE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggfcS4mqmCs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT-AWz4ZbxQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AaK2pgQWrE&feature=related
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Nativity displays and even Christmas Trees are taken down because they offend, Bibles were banned from the Olympic center yet Islamic prayers are now being offered in Hartford Connecticut at the city council.
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http://victimsoflaw.net/Religious1.htm
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58544
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I pledge to burn whatever the hell I want to burn. mooslims can take a leap. Its called FREEDOM, ahab.
Bravo!! Couldn’t agree more! Showing weakness opens the door to more attacks. That’s why I posted the article about General Pershing. Because Pershing wasn’t weak on Islam there weren’t any more terrorist attacks for 42 years!
The despicable thing about the koran burning is that it appears under a Christian banner. There is nothing Christian about what 'pastor' Larry is doing. If we burn korans in our country, in all likely-hood, they will burn Christians in their countries. If 'pastor' Larry had a real Christian conscience, he would not put his already heavily persecuted brothers and sisters in greater peril.
Opposing this ridiculous stunt is not submitting to the muslims, its picking the right fight. You don't oppose a heinous philosophy by burning its books, you burn its logic instead. Give the mulsims the truth of the Gospel and they will burn their own korans. (ref the Crescent Project www.crescentproject.org/).
“Our national security now hinges on how we negotiate this, how we speak about it.”
He’s speaking to his base of non-Muslim supporters; frightened liberals (is that redundant?).
When you watch the Koran burning controversy, one might erroneously conclude we are a nation dominated by fear. The truth is, only some of us are-the left.
Know what this Mosque and prayers in Hartford are for the US?
LAND FOR PEACE!!!
Nice!
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