As a catholic who knows rather well the catholic church and studied théology in Rome, i don’t agree with many statements from the Vatican or catholic leaders on social and political issues.
Many bishops and even the pope sometimes surrendered to the politically correct, to the modern liberal ideology which is spread by big governments,big medias and international institutions like UN...
I don’t agree with everything coming from the Vatican as i respect some catholics who were good and brave christians(bishops,popes , monks or simple christians)through history
Islam is not a religion. It is a criminal gang, that uses the illusion of being a religion, which initiates force against the innocent and violates their natural rights for the ultimate end of world domination.Therefore they have forfeited their right to be treated equally to other genuine religions and have forfeited their right to freedom of religion.
I'm glad I left that (RC) church.
Eph 2:8-9
Pope Urban II is having a “face palm” moment Upstairs...
Frak the Vatican......don’t hear them utter one iota when Muslims have spit on, pissed on, and burned the Holy Bible....not one word. I have one word though: STFU!
If the mainstream is decrying the act, then it probably is the right thing to do. The world hates doing the right thing, so when the world hollers “foul!”, you may ought to follow through!
Gen. Patraeus (God Bless Him and his troops) needs to use this as an intelligence exploitation mechanism-sort through the muslim protestors in Afghanistan and see what shakes out-probably a few wanted types, ya think?
He also ought to leave the parsing of the rights (worship and speech) of free Americans to someone else;, he who has sworn an oath to protect the very act he is decrying.
God Bless
But what about the people of other faiths in muslim countries Pope? Don't they have the "right" to keep their heads attached to their bodies? Are the people of faith not considered "part of the Church" and by extension "sacred"?
All this fuss over pieces of paper attached to one another with words printed on them, yet whimpers from the international community when a Christian gets acid splashed on them or their heads sawed off.
Sorry, not buying into what folks are trying to sell here.
Flame away.
Is it any worse than sealing up this gate, building a cemetary in front of it, and then building a huge mosque right on top of another religion's holiest site?
THREE Christian high school girls were beheaded as a Ramadan “trophy” by Indonesian militants who conceived the idea after a visit to Philippines jihadists, a court heard yesterday.
The girls’ severed heads were dumped in plastic bags in their village in Indonesia’s strife-torn Central Sulawesi province, along with a handwritten note threatening more such attacks.
The note read: “Wanted: 100 more Christian heads, teenaged or adult, male or female; blood shall be answered with blood, soul with soul, head with head.”
Javanese trader Hasanuddin appeared in Jakarta Central Court yesterday charged with planning and directing the murders in October last year. He faces a death sentence if found guilty under anti-terrorism legislation.
Hasanuddin allegedly returned from a visit to members of Philippines Islamist group the Moro Islamic Liberation Front with tales of how that organisation regularly staged bombings to coincide with Lebaran, the festival that ends the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. He later spoke with a preacher in Poso, Central Sulawesi, about whether such a plan could work in Indonesia, but expressed doubt about whether it was appropriate.
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However, after further discussion with friends, he decided that beheading Christians could qualify as an act of Muslim charity.
Conscripting several accomplices at a local pesantren, or Islamic school, he directed one of them, Lilik Purnomo, to seek out “the head of a Christian”, prosecutors alleged.
“It would be a great Lebaran trophy if we got a Christian. Go search for the best place for us to find one,” Hasanuddin allegedly ordered his companion.
Lilik returned to say he had found an “excellent” target - a group of schoolgirls who travelled to and from class by foot in the Central Sulawesi village of Gebong Rejo. The village is in the district of Poso, where hundreds of people have died in sectarian violence in recent years.
Many observers worry that Central Sulawesi has become the latest battleground in a deadly jihad.
Three Christian men were executed there last month for their role in a massacre of Muslims in 2000 and there have been a series of deadly attacks in the province in recent months.
Prosecutors yesterday detailed how Hasanuddin, Lilik and co-accused Irwanto Irano planned the schoolgirl beheadings with six other men. They prepared six machetes and black plastic bags for carrying off the severed heads and spent several days surveying the area where the students regularly passed by.
The operation was called off on one occasion, when a woman spotted the attackers hiding by the roadside, waiting for their victims. On the night before the attack, Lilik told Hasanuddin: “I hope you are ready to receive your Lebaran gift.”
The attack was launched the following morning, but only four of the six targeted girls appeared.
Lilik, directing the attack from a nearby hill, told his accomplices to act quickly so that the remaining two girls could still be killed should they appear behind their friends.
The attackers cleanly beheaded three of the students but a fourth, Noviana Malewa, escaped after a struggle and ran away screaming. Her attackers gave chase but were unable to catch her.
The bodies, dressed in school uniform, were left by the roadside near the execution site, but the heads were carried in a backpack to Hasanuddin.The trial of his two co-accomplices was adjourned until Wednesday, when Hasanuddin will also reappear.
The Catholic church does have members in Indonesia, some of whom will be beaten, raped and murdered in a few days if Jones follows through with his plans. Therefore, the Catholic church must take steps to protect it's members worldwide.
According to the ACLU, was OK for Neo-Nazis to parade through Skokie, IL. Where are THEY now? I wouldn’t do what this pastor is doing, but the selective outrage among the left and the appeasers everywhere is grating.
All the bed-wetting over this issue is ridiculous. Do people have the right to free expression or not?
Now the Vatican is all wee-wee’d up like our fearless leader.
All the bed-wetting over this issue is ridiculous. Do people have the right to free expression or not?
Now the Vatican is all wee-wee’d up like our fearless leader.
Burning the Koran is not morally right or respectful. It is a protected act under the First Amendment, but trust me, I wouldn’t regard numerous things I could do under the First Amendment as correct. I also think the message is being directed at the wrong people as well. The politicians need to get the message by protest, or being voted out of office, that you do not blatantly favor Islam over other religions. Muslims shouldn’t be beyond the ability to turn the other cheek in some situations, a simple Koran-burning being one of them. This guy is about the same as a moron who burns a Bible and throws it on the steps of a Church.
If I recall the Lord brought all the idols down in the OT ... I think we’re just fine
The Roman church, which used to ruthlessly ferret out what it called anti-Christian heresy, has in recent years taken to making kissy-poo towards any religion, the idea seeming to be that it might be a staging point for eventual belief in Catholicism.
This has gone on long enough that some kind of empirical test should be possible — has the attitude shift succeeded in welcoming more former Muslims into the Roman church?
I love this. A 50 person church gets this much airtime? This is really amazing. These folks should give up “churching” and go into “marketing.”
Waiting for the Vatican to issue a statement against the Islamic supremacist theocratic legal system in Saudi Arabia.
I'm still waiting.
See, this is why it's an issue. People turn a blind eye to Islam's intolerance.
Funny that we have never heard the Vatican complain about or denounce as “apostate” any of the outrageous things Muslims have done to offend and kill Christians. I guess it shows just whose side the Vatican is on. The Vatican, “for murdering Christians and burning bibles, against burning korans.”