Again, rationally it makes you wonder what their motivation is.
Posted on 09/07/2010 7:28:57 PM PDT by earlJam
Edited on 09/08/2010 2:27:45 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
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Ever heard of the Knights Templar?
And a straight forward question....do you think God wants you to submit to Islam?
Or is Islam the antithisis of Christianity?
Do you think God would want you to honor and respect a religion founded by a pedophile?
Seriously?
Westboro Baptist is not anti-military or anti-USA. Rather the opposite, actually. Do some research. They go to funerals because the Bible says that a fallen soldier is a sign of God's wrath and a reminder of the condition of this world, a fallen world, in sin.
Again, rationally it makes you wonder what their motivation is.
Oh. I see. You lost the argument from a religious POV. Now you want to “go military”?
Bringing Petraeus into the mix is a bad, bad idea too.
This guy thinks burning Korans is bad (bad!)
But burning Bibles in Afghanistan? Sure! That’s OK.
Seriously Mr. (or Mrs) Moderator (one who can zot me to hell and back), you gotta come up with a better reason to defend Obama and Holder other than Dove Outreach is a bunch of idiots and because Petraeus thinks it a bad idea.
Seriously.
How can you rectify this when the pastor of DWOC will burn the Qu’ran in protest of 911? It doesn’t compute. Since he must either support jihad, or protest jihad.
By my calculation, to burn the Qu’ran, he protests jihad and supports our troops.
With that in mind, I can only surmise your motive to link WBC with DWOC is a strategy designed from the Whitehouse.
If the DWOC supports the killing of our troops, as you suggest, with this pic offered from WBC files, then show us some pics with actual members of DWOC carrying like signs.
Do this, and I will join your cause.
If you can’t. Then I will regard you as a propagandist for Islam.
So you cant answer a simple riddle?
When is yelling “fire” in a crowded theatre protected speech?
Answer...when there is a fire...
The preacher is calling attention to the dangers of radical islam...by putting a target on his own back...
The theatre is on fire....and he’s yelling fire...
You may sit an ignore the preacher....you will not be able to ignore the fire...
Obama might as well be the one lighting the matches with the way they've blown this story out of the water. The TRULY dangerous thing happening here is the way Obama and Company are attempting to frame a group who proclaim themselves to be Christians (don't know, never heard of this church before) and trying to point the blame at them for actions that may or may not be taken overseas by a bunch of homicidal cult wackos who will shoot at our military with or without provocation anyway. They are already in harm's way daily and nothing will make the Taliban crazier or more PO'd then they already are. This little church just doesn't have that kind of power over people but Obama is trying to make it look like they do.
Now, the question is why? What does Obama and his Muslim friends have to gain by blowing this story out of context and proportion?
No He does not want me to submit to any other but Himself...
and His church. I have no respect for Islam...it is evil. But,
so is the so-called preacher, Phelps. He is using a denomination
for his own hateful agenda, and I can’t see God approving that
either. Not from what I’ve read. Seriously.
I have heard of Knights Templar but have no idea what it is.
People have a tendency to forget that Satan was cast to rule the Earth.
ROFLOL! You’re in rare form tonight and we needed a good laugh back here. So thanks are due I reckon.
Nah.
Or he may be a tool of the left.. think about it (also note my comment above regarding the meaning of book burning).. now, on 9.11, all the news, instead of being about the Muslim terrorists who attacked us, will be about "those Christian book burners".. He is pals with and marches with Westboro Baptist who has the same tactic, make a mockery of Christians through outrageous antics. Ie, they are being used as a propaganda tool by the jihadists.
I may not be right, but considering what is at the source linked above (their own Church's site) and who they associate with, it is worth raising the question.
You miss the T-shirt perhaps?
“Islam is of the devil”
Most of us already know this...especially after 9/11...
Well now. My day is complete. I’ve given the moderators a good laugh.
Now I’ll toddle off to bed and give the misses a good laugh.
(Wait. That didn’t come out just right. Don’t hit send... don’t h...)
“I think they would be glad for the extra reminder to loved ones that they still have time to make a choice “
Yeah, because everyone who lost a loved one in a violent death wants to be told he died a sinner and is going to hell. That is *so* comforting. And carrying around signs saying ‘God hates fags” at funerals is *so* in keeping with Jesus’ “Love Thy neighbor” commandment. (/sarc)
That is true, but I don’t conclude what a person’s motivation is by their t-shirt, bumper sticker, or signs. Those are elements that can be used in many ways, such as making one appear to take a certain position.
Phelps wears the mantle of Christian but has the purpose of destroying Christianity.
I’ve been speaking of Westboro Baptist NOT about the preacher at Dove burning the Koran. If he wants to burn the Koran, I say send him cases of them so he can light up the skyline.
Get off your little self righteous ass and reread my posts. Oh but one of my posts was pulled by the moderator...sort of ironic don’t you think?
Building a mosque at Ground Zero is to ‘property rights’
what burning a Koran is to 1st amendment rights.
Sometimes having the right to do something doesn’t mean its the right thing to do.
if the message intended is that the Koran is a hateful book for an intolerant religion, burning it is a poor way to make the point. It gives Christians a black eye. Far better to simple EDUCATE people.
And they are NOT Christians.
If they are not Christians espousing Christian beliefs, then they must be from satan. How else can it be explained?
I am not now, nor have I ever been a proponent of the activities of WBC. I detest with extreme prejudice in what I consider their diabolical activism. Nor am I a proponent of the Christian concept of turning the other cheek. Which they must be. But I don't see this with the DWOC. Since their activism takes an opposite approach to worldwide jihad.
Perhaps that is why you don't view DWOC as Christian? They don't turn the other cheek, since they take an active role against worldwide jihad?
“No He does not want me to submit to any other but Himself...
and His church. I have no respect for Islam...it is evil. But,”
Ah...the “yes but”....
“so is the so-called preacher, Phelps. He is using a denomination for his own hateful agenda, and I can’t see God approving that either. Not from what I’ve read. Seriously.”
And you’ve also read of god smiting those he doesnt approve of...
And phelps is not Jones...
“I have heard of Knights Templar but have no idea what it is.”
Then educate yourself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar
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