Posted on 09/06/2010 10:40:15 PM PDT by naturalman1975
a year, i wouldnt even give it a couple of months before infighting begins, i actually think this works out well for Abbott because in a few months, this dog of a coalition will implode as Gillard is as crap as it comes and i bet you the australian people wont be happy when they see the high price paid to the independents.
Yes, completely unworkable. The budget will likely fail and the great people of Oz will be voting again in their summer.
The one nice thing about Westminster is that these unstable coalitions fall apart quickly.
a majority of 1 is basically no majority, there is no room for manoeuvre. Gillard is going to be so unpopular within a few months it will make dumping Rudd seem like the worst mistake ever.
The independents have Labor by the balls and they know it. They can demand what they like now and get it.
Abbott should thank his lucky stars they backed her because this minority won’t last long and all he needs to do is wait in the wings.
Eh, if Abbott wanted the job, he would have pushed harder for it. Westminster is usually pretty serious about letting the opposition have a chance at forming government when the governing party fails to acquire a mandate.
Westminster and the GG usually regard such a vote as a vote of non-confidence in the government.
My understanding, given the length of time this has taken is that Abbott was asked first, and told the GG to let the chips fall where they may. Then it fell to Labour, and Labour took this long to form their coalition.
I’d be very shocked if Abbott permits the budget to get through, and that Abbott hasn’t already told his folks to have the slates for the election prepared so that they can roll out on his timetable.
It’s basically win/win for him. The indecisive result will force an election soon, and he’ll be in the catbird seat.
43.7 for Abbott to
38.0 for Gilliard.
She’s a dead PM walking. The people already rejected her, and Abbott knows this. He’ll be pushing for a decisive rejection.
Which election?
I was in Australia during the election. It was like a trainwreck. All these young people duped into Gore’s green nonsense. They were the swing votes for Labor. But Labor bought off the independents too over the mining taxes.
I wonder if there is more of the price that has not yet come out for the vote of the independents? Will there be investigative journalists digging in to this or will the media pull off because it is a Labor win?
Conventional wisdom would say Hitler did with the collapse of the Weimar Republic.
But we know that there is no significant difference between the Stalin left and the so-called Nazi ( National Socialists) ‘right.’
So you’re right the Left wins again.
Just to avoid confusion, the NAZI party stood for the "National Socialist" party, which was profoundly left of center, not right. The left loves to use the word to describe the right ("BusHitler, etc.) but they are simply diverting attention from their own form of national socialism and fascism.
I see how the confusion could exist. Thanks for clarifying.
I didn’t mean the Nazis were the ‘so-called’ National Socialists - I meant that the Nazis are considered by conventional thought to be the so-called ‘Right’
We both know there isn’t a dimes worth of difference between the Stalin Left and the Hitlerian Right.
That's what I was getting at - conventional thought, as spoken by the left-wing media and educrats, claims that the NAZI party was right wing, but in reality, it was left-of-center. Consider the similarities between our democRATS and the NAZIs ...
Both support National Health Care
Both speak out against free enterprise and business in general
Both prefer a strong, centralized government controlling everything.
Both see no problem with killing their domestic adversaries (NAZI Germany killed Jews, the democRATS so far have only managed to exterminate the unborn - so far, though the new health care scheme gives them a tool with which to expand their capability)
Both favor a militant style of enforcement. Although union thugs (read SEIU) haven't quite risen to the level of the SS, they are favored by the left, and escape scorn in the mainstream media as well as many local enforcement agencies.
I'll stop way short of equating America's left with NAZI Germany, but their path leads in that direction. Unfortunately, the younger adults in America haven't been taught important history lessons for if they had been, they would not be embracing anything resembling "hope and change".
Suxxor.
Backround if you haven’t heard, Aussies had an election and Labor and the Liberal (true meaning of the word)/National coalition both fell just short of the 76 needed.
No majority government in Canada, The UK and now Aus.
It was not likely for this to happen in Australia because they have instant runoff voting and 2 dominant political forces in Labor and the Coalition.
The Greens got record support and won a single seat.
A shame, 2 seats away.
I’m waiting to see what happens - Labor has already reneged on the deal it made with one of the independents who gave them power. The Governor General hasn’t actually commissioned Julia Gillard as Prime Minister yet either - she remains caretaker Prime Minister but technically we still don’t have a new government.
I can’t see her not being sworn in this week, but I really wonder if the new government will survive even until the end of the year.
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